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Friday, February 13, 2026
- bomb"Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute."
- dragonmasterThat sounds suspiciously Knuthy
- dreamrealIt does, and it's good advice
- if-p-then-qHiya! I'm on the train to my java lecture and decided to look it over, seems like we cover packages today, if I'd waited a week to start my project I may have had an easier time understanding the project structure lol
- dreamrealwelp, nevet has PEP support. The RFC process isn't idempotent - the first request yields different responses than later requests, but that's because the first request gives you the data from the RFC or whatever, and subsequent requests are factoids.
- dreamrealjsr 12
- nevetjsr 12: Java Data Objects (JDO) Specification (https://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=12)
- dreamrealoh, nevet's muted here :D
- dreamrealbut this is neat: adding extra spec requests like that is pretty simple.
- deeboi was wondering wtf is this new nevet spec, 'nevet pep' google search only brings up post exposure medication for hiv...
- dreamrealdeebo: /whois nevet :D
- dreamrealI'm about to do a new release on it, lots of little fixes as I poke and prod
- [twisti]fuck that api shit, id just curl and pretend to be firefox or something
- dreamrealyoutube and twitter used to encode the title in the data somewhere; I don't know if they still do, but it was always a pain to work with.
- cheeseranti-bot/scraping
- dreamrealYeah. Avoiding the anti-scraping is not that difficult at all; it's a little impolite, but they kinda ask for it by being evil or evil-ish. That still leaves the problem of finding the title.
- [twisti]css.select("yt-formatted-string.ytd-watch-metadata:nth-child(1)");
- dreamrealright, that's for... youtube, yeah?
- [twisti]probably got to adjust that every few months, but less often than the api
- [twisti]yeah
- dreamrealWhich means we need special selectors for that site, which is the whole point I was making.
- [twisti]as opposed to a special api for that site ?
- [twisti]or just say fuck it, run puppeteer and grab the actual title
- [twisti]though that probably opens a whole new can of worms
- dreamrealRunning puppeteer for an irc bot sounds... uh...
- dreamrealI mean, I can just say "if the site matches this, use this selector mechanism" which means I'm just writing selectors/client profiles for twitter and youtube specifically, not too far off from how javabot does it today
- dreamreal~8 ball
- javabotMost likely
- dreamrealnevet does that with an interpolation: "<reply>(Yes|No|Maybe|Ask me( tomorrow| again| again tomorrow)|It's (unclear|unknowable))."
- dreamrealand yes, the expression could be "more efficient." The goal was to get it working, where you can nest the expressions.
- dreamrealnevet also does JCP/JSR/RFC lookups but seeds the factoid system with the retrieved information, so now you can annotate jsr 52's text with "don't use this crap!" and such
- dreamrealit's still not "ready" - I'm filing new issues pretty often - but a lot of those issues are being fixed with relatively little code.
- dreamrealbuilding is a pain - 850+ tests :D