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Thursday, February 19, 2026

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10:56:46[twisti]i never signed any contributor release forms for my factoids, i demand compensation and representation!
10:59:00odinsbane~compensation
10:59:00javabotodinsbane, what does that even *mean*?
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11:03:37odinsbane~representation
11:03:37javabotodinsbane, what does that even *mean*?
11:04:35odinsbane~representation is <reply> Find out who authored your favorite factoids at https://javabot.evanchooly.com/factoids
11:04:35javabotOK, odinsbane.
11:04:36nevetodinsbane mentioned url: https://javabot.evanchooly.com/factoids ("javabot")
11:05:30odinsbaneWow 3417 factoids.
11:06:47odinsbane[twisti]: 25 factoid you most recent being emacs
11:07:30odinsbanerecently used... I could definitely see some compensation for somebody.
11:08:37ParaAs per GDPR the factoids with nicks attached is in fact Personal Data (PD definition is "any information which can be linked to a real person directly or indirectly") but I vote for convenienty ignoring that.
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11:23:53[twisti]odinsbane: its even more complicated - the emacs one, for example, isnt mine, i just tacked on the xkcd comic (i think)
11:25:18odinsbaneI was thinking you'd be charged for encouraging people to use emacs.
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11:28:17[twisti]i would never
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12:49:58dreamrealemacs is recent because if-p-then-q :D
12:50:14dreamrealI'm mostly migrating some of the best factoids, with jwz and the laws being the first
12:50:34dreamrealand that gives me a chance to stress some of the features, as a result
12:52:20dreamrealmigrating some of the factoids is a pain because the structure of factoids in nevet is different
12:52:49dreamrealit's doable to just copy them across but that removes some of the things the factoid system is designed for
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13:18:39Paradreamreal: this might be very timley for you https://letsencrypt.org/2026/02/18/dns-persist-01.html
13:18:39javabotPara's title: "DNS-PERSIST-01: A New Model for DNS-based Challenge Validation - Let's Encrypt"
13:18:39nevetPara mentioned url: https://letsencrypt.org/2026/02/18/dns-persist-01.html ("DNS-PERSIST-01: A New Model for DNS-based Challenge Validation")
13:18:54Para...timely
13:19:10dreamrealI can read, para
13:19:24dreamreal"timley" for timely is hardly the worst I'll have seen
13:20:04dreamrealoooo that WOULD be nice
13:21:50dreamrealdo they support it yet?
13:22:32ParaI think rollout started literally yesterday.
13:22:56dreamrealI mean, that was published yesterday, what's the holdup?
13:22:59dreamreal~certbot
13:22:59javabotdreamreal, what does that even *mean*?
13:23:02dreamrealpfft
13:23:03Para"Staging rollout is planned for late Q1 2026, with a production rollout targeted for some time in Q2 2026"
13:23:16dreamrealPara: I read it, yes
13:23:18ParaI don't feel like diving into their process docs, sooooo
13:23:29dreamrealbut you're right, that would address what I'm doing quite well :D
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13:24:23Ramazanenescik04hi
13:24:33dreamrealmorning, etc
13:28:43dreamrealPara: I guess my main concern would be renewals... but I guess the process is: have the account, slap it into the DNS TXT as shown, then certbot checks the DNS and goes "oh TXT exists, here's your cert sir"?
13:29:05dreamrealand relies on the local account configuration to validate that YOU actually deserve said cert?
13:29:40ParaApparently so.
13:30:11dreamrealWell, they need to hurry up
13:30:20dreamrealwill write a very sternly worded email right now
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13:42:37BombeDang, DNS-PERSIST-01 looks beautiful!
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13:53:46dreamrealBombe: you write a very sternly worded email too!
13:53:56dreamrealWe'll bombard them with sternness!
13:54:28ParaHello, is this the manager of Lets Encrypt? I would like to file a complaint!
13:54:53dreamrealmein Gott that is not how it's done
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13:57:41BombeI would like to fil an appreciation!
13:57:47Bombes/fil/&e/
13:59:56dreamreal"I would like to file a correction, since you people needlessly failed to note a minor error in my last missive. Thou art dropping yon balls, knaves!"
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14:13:00ParaIt goes without saying that they obviously have done it wrong and should instead fo what we tell them to do.
14:15:32dreamrealActually, "thou art dropping yon balls, knaves" is ... poorly done. Should definitely have been "Thou art droppething thy goode packets most grievously out of order, villains and knaves - yea, verily, sooth and forsooth! Egads! ... and I am moste offendedeth that thou hast not corrected even that error, sirrahs."
14:15:47dreamrealyou misspelled "of," para. What's rwong with you?
14:16:07Parafonly ans
14:16:25ParaI have a microcosm of stupid going on atm, including my keyboard being in a wonky location.
14:16:55dreamrealThat's the excuse I use, too, because I have three screens - THREE, fear me - and my keyboard is actually under the farthest rightmost.
14:17:03Paraalso, I just fixed 11 CVEs with one line of config and reduced size of deployment by like 40 megabytes, and found a broken test suite that's been under the radar for like half a year. All in one line.
14:17:11dreamrealPlus I have cats, and one of them LOOOOOVES to type. She is an atrocious speller.
14:17:24ParaI definitely should not partake in any kind of lottery for a while.
14:18:07dreamrealhah, wow on the CVEs - good job, mate.
14:18:19ParaDog ate my homework, cat did my taxes.
14:18:41* dreamreal writes that down
14:18:45ParaOur Jira sure is loving this PR.
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18:07:44dragonmasterThere's always pawsense
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18:18:21dreamrealdragonmaster: ... what
18:21:49dragonmasterhttp://bitboost.com/pawsense/index.html
18:21:49javabotdragonmaster's title: "PawSense helps you catproof your computer, by protecting against cat typing but letting humans use the keyboard freely"
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18:21:50nevetdragonmaster mentioned url: http://bitboost.com/pawsense/index.html ("PawSense helps you catproof your computer, by protecting against cat typing but letting humans use the keyboard freely")
18:22:56dragonmasterI'm convinced it was a joke, but you can never tell.
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18:33:19dreamrealoh.
18:33:23dreamreal~ 5 minute rule
18:33:23javabotThe 5 minute rule states that you can not contribute to a conversation until you have listened to it for 5 minutes to gain context and understanding of where the conversation stands.
18:33:55dreamrealSorry, I'd lost context. I want my cat's inability to type exposed to the world, anyway! If she wants to be known as a better typist, she'd better get t' learning.
18:39:21* dreamreal pets Noelle to soften the blows of harsh reality. It's okay, baby. Not every tortie can spell worth a flip.
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19:42:22DoofusCanadensisdreamreal: you see this? https://letsencrypt.org/2026/02/18/dns-persist-01.html
19:42:22javabotDoofusCanadensis's title: "DNS-PERSIST-01: A New Model for DNS-based Challenge Validation - Let's Encrypt"
19:42:23nevetDoofusCanadensis mentioned url: https://letsencrypt.org/2026/02/18/dns-persist-01.html ("DNS-PERSIST-01: A New Model for DNS-based Challenge Validation")
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19:53:22dreamrealDoofusCanadensis: no, but para showed it to me, so yes
19:53:33dreamrealbut those bastages haven't made it production code yet
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