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  35. deeboanyone know of any "official" spring (boot) discussion channels with actual devs/contributors? need to ask about some extension options or possible changes and using stack overflow as a platforms seems just plain stupid
  36. deebothere used to be links to matrix or similar services but can't find them anymore
  37. ParaMaybe they deprecated all that.
  38. ParaApparently https://spring.io/community points to Linkedin now :D
  39. Paraand few other such
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  41. deeboi get their reluctance to not have anything like that but damn is it annoying, no projects even have discussions open on github
  42. dreamrealdeebo: hrm
  43. whaleyvmware wants your money for such things
  44. whaleythough seriously, I have no idea but I'm willing to bet you aren't going to get direct access to actual dev without a support contract.
  45. deeboyeah i'm just interested in the possible user extensions to spring-data-relational, or possible contributions to get some stuff we need available
  46. dreamrealdeebo: I've had to reach out to individuals to get information, which really kinda sucks
  47. deeboyeah i guess i can check the contributors profiles if they have some way to contact them to get further info, just an annoying way to do it
  48. deeboat least i'd hate it :)
  49. dreamrealwho knows, maybe you'll be so annoying that they'll go "dang it, slack, discord, irc are all there, maybe we should use one of them like normal people"
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  52. deebotime for an opeclaw bot that shames them into starting some sort of open channel
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  55. dmlloydhere's more drivel from me: https://github.com/smallrye/smallrye-ffm
  56. nevetGitHub - smallrye/smallrye-ffm: A utility to simplify usage of the Java FFM API
  57. javabotdmlloyd's title: "GitHub - smallrye/smallrye-ffm: A utility to simplify usage of the Java FFM API"
  58. dmlloydreplaces my earlier "autolinker" project with a (hopefully) safer and more performant model
  59. dreamrealdmlloyd: ++ holy shit
  60. nevetdmlloyd now has karma of 1.
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  62. dmlloydworks on linux, mac, windows, aix (theoretically), maybe z/os (no tests yet) - CPUs supported are x86, x64, arm32, aarch64, ppc32/64, probably risc-v
  63. dmlloydmips not supported for errno handling on linux
  64. dmlloyd(so this won't work on playstation 2, sorry)
  65. dreamrealheh
  66. dreamrealwhich arm processors, though? v7, v8, v6?
  67. dreamrealI'm thinking of all those raspi0 machines running FFM...
  68. ParaPPC support theoretically means XBox 360 as well.
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  70. dreamrealdmlloyd: more seriously, that's awesome
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  72. dreamrealI have a project that REALLY wants FFM but is targeting an older JVM :(
  73. dmlloydall ARM including raspi :-)
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  75. dmlloydwell all ARM that you can get a JVM for anyway...
  76. dmlloydPara, yeah and playstation 3... but it's mainly because IBM big iron has PPC as one of its CPU types
  77. dmlloydbut you know, bust out your mac g4 I guess :-)
  78. dmlloydI wonder if anyone still has one of those playstation 3 clusters up and running... I wonder if their GPU is any good for AI
  79. dmlloydAI says no :
  80. dmlloyd:-)
  81. deeboit's just lying so the nvidia-openai-oracle-etc circle jerk goes to the moon
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  83. dreamrealdmlloyd: the raspi's different processors support different instruction sets - you can't run the official mongo images on some of the raspis because of the instruction set even though it's "compatible"
  84. dreamrealso it's a real observation but may not apply :D
  85. dmlloydit basically comes down to: can you get a (recent-ish) JVM running on it, and can you get your target library compiled for it
  86. dreamrealyeah, I know.
  87. ParaThere was that one guy a short while ago trying to make Java run on that...whatever OS it was, recruit that guy for the effort.
  88. Parawas it hurd? something like that
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  92. dreamrealdang it, jackson 3 is a pain
  93. dreamrealI get that configuring a mapper wasn't perfect but not providing a distinct migration... or even repeating the features... feels dumb
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  95. deebospring-boot-jackson2 for lyfe, or hopefully at least until someone else deals with it
  96. dmlloydwas it a full rewrite or something?
  97. dreamrealI'm getting damn close to doing that
  98. dreamrealdmlloyd: I dunno, it's just amazing: "oh, you want no nulls and trailing commas and dates as strings like jackson 2? Sounds easy! So about that... ummm..."
  99. deebowe use jersey so it doesn't even support jackson3 yet, and we also have some weird jackson (de)serialization cache warmup tasks, wonder if those will be compatible
  100. dmlloydis it stuff that was un(der)specified? or were those defined behaviors?
  101. dreamrealI'm trying to futureproof this as much as I can, so I WANT to target jackson 3 if I can, but I dunno if I can, do I win a prize for the most uses of "if I can" in a single message, I'd like to have that prize if I can
  102. dmlloydbugs get you when you're young, but when you're older, it's unspecified behavior that kicks your ass
  103. dmlloydiffycan
  104. dreamrealand eventually bugs get you when you're old
  105. sbalmosmunch munch munch
  106. dreamrealit's the circle of liiiiiiiiiife
  107. sbalmosdmlloyd: my favorite 5 words in my previous position: "For the avoidance of doubt..."
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  117. vitaliyjust gotta make enough bugs when young... to build immunity
  118. * dreamreal files that away as justification
  119. dreamreal"I would have fixed all that stuff, maybe even tested, but... you know... immunity"
  120. vitaliy<3
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  122. vitaliyi really admire Uncle Bob Martin, from the agile manifesto days
  123. vitaliyhe's pretty active on twitter
  124. vitaliyand not afraid to get his hands dirty and make all sort of bugs
  125. vitaliyhope i age professionaly as he does
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  127. dreamrealI like bob
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