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Tuesday, March 3, 2026
- deeboanyone know of any "official" spring (boot) discussion channels with actual devs/contributors? need to ask about some extension options or possible changes and using stack overflow as a platforms seems just plain stupid
- deebothere used to be links to matrix or similar services but can't find them anymore
- ParaMaybe they deprecated all that.
- ParaApparently https://spring.io/community points to Linkedin now :D
- Paraand few other such
- deeboi get their reluctance to not have anything like that but damn is it annoying, no projects even have discussions open on github
- dreamrealdeebo: hrm
- whaleyvmware wants your money for such things
- whaleythough seriously, I have no idea but I'm willing to bet you aren't going to get direct access to actual dev without a support contract.
- deeboyeah i'm just interested in the possible user extensions to spring-data-relational, or possible contributions to get some stuff we need available
- dreamrealdeebo: I've had to reach out to individuals to get information, which really kinda sucks
- deeboyeah i guess i can check the contributors profiles if they have some way to contact them to get further info, just an annoying way to do it
- deeboat least i'd hate it :)
- dreamrealwho knows, maybe you'll be so annoying that they'll go "dang it, slack, discord, irc are all there, maybe we should use one of them like normal people"
- deebotime for an opeclaw bot that shames them into starting some sort of open channel
- dmlloydhere's more drivel from me: https://github.com/smallrye/smallrye-ffm
- nevetGitHub - smallrye/smallrye-ffm: A utility to simplify usage of the Java FFM API
- javabotdmlloyd's title: "GitHub - smallrye/smallrye-ffm: A utility to simplify usage of the Java FFM API"
- dmlloydreplaces my earlier "autolinker" project with a (hopefully) safer and more performant model
- dreamrealdmlloyd: ++ holy shit
- nevetdmlloyd now has karma of 1.
- dmlloydworks on linux, mac, windows, aix (theoretically), maybe z/os (no tests yet) - CPUs supported are x86, x64, arm32, aarch64, ppc32/64, probably risc-v
- dmlloydmips not supported for errno handling on linux
- dmlloyd(so this won't work on playstation 2, sorry)
- dreamrealheh
- dreamrealwhich arm processors, though? v7, v8, v6?
- dreamrealI'm thinking of all those raspi0 machines running FFM...
- ParaPPC support theoretically means XBox 360 as well.
- dreamrealdmlloyd: more seriously, that's awesome
- dreamrealI have a project that REALLY wants FFM but is targeting an older JVM :(
- dmlloydall ARM including raspi :-)
- dmlloydwell all ARM that you can get a JVM for anyway...
- dmlloydPara, yeah and playstation 3... but it's mainly because IBM big iron has PPC as one of its CPU types
- dmlloydbut you know, bust out your mac g4 I guess :-)
- dmlloydI wonder if anyone still has one of those playstation 3 clusters up and running... I wonder if their GPU is any good for AI
- dmlloydAI says no :
- dmlloyd:-)
- deeboit's just lying so the nvidia-openai-oracle-etc circle jerk goes to the moon
- dreamrealdmlloyd: the raspi's different processors support different instruction sets - you can't run the official mongo images on some of the raspis because of the instruction set even though it's "compatible"
- dreamrealso it's a real observation but may not apply :D
- dmlloydit basically comes down to: can you get a (recent-ish) JVM running on it, and can you get your target library compiled for it
- dreamrealyeah, I know.
- ParaThere was that one guy a short while ago trying to make Java run on that...whatever OS it was, recruit that guy for the effort.
- Parawas it hurd? something like that
- dreamrealdang it, jackson 3 is a pain
- dreamrealI get that configuring a mapper wasn't perfect but not providing a distinct migration... or even repeating the features... feels dumb
- deebospring-boot-jackson2 for lyfe, or hopefully at least until someone else deals with it
- dmlloydwas it a full rewrite or something?
- dreamrealI'm getting damn close to doing that
- dreamrealdmlloyd: I dunno, it's just amazing: "oh, you want no nulls and trailing commas and dates as strings like jackson 2? Sounds easy! So about that... ummm..."
- deebowe use jersey so it doesn't even support jackson3 yet, and we also have some weird jackson (de)serialization cache warmup tasks, wonder if those will be compatible
- dmlloydis it stuff that was un(der)specified? or were those defined behaviors?
- dreamrealI'm trying to futureproof this as much as I can, so I WANT to target jackson 3 if I can, but I dunno if I can, do I win a prize for the most uses of "if I can" in a single message, I'd like to have that prize if I can
- dmlloydbugs get you when you're young, but when you're older, it's unspecified behavior that kicks your ass
- dmlloydiffycan
- dreamrealand eventually bugs get you when you're old
- sbalmosmunch munch munch
- dreamrealit's the circle of liiiiiiiiiife
- sbalmosdmlloyd: my favorite 5 words in my previous position: "For the avoidance of doubt..."
- vitaliyjust gotta make enough bugs when young... to build immunity
- * dreamreal files that away as justification
- dreamreal"I would have fixed all that stuff, maybe even tested, but... you know... immunity"
- vitaliy<3
- vitaliyi really admire Uncle Bob Martin, from the agile manifesto days
- vitaliyhe's pretty active on twitter
- vitaliyand not afraid to get his hands dirty and make all sort of bugs
- vitaliyhope i age professionaly as he does
- dreamrealI like bob