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Thursday, March 12, 2026
- ne555https://bpa.st/XETSU good morning, trying to debug a vaadin project. so run it with `./gradlew appRun` and then tried to «attach to process» from intellij, but there are authentication (¿?) issues
- cheeserne555: gemini's response: https://gist.github.com/evanchooly/fc7c0d56bad06dd0c3185a55923674df
- nevetgist:fc7c0d56bad06dd0c3185a55923674df
- dreamrealcheeser: how's gemini compared to claue and openai?
- cheeserlast i tried it for coding (~3 months ago) it thrashed for over half an hour and still couldn't generate code for the same prompt that took claude just a few minutes. and it was thrashing on junit code. it wasn't even that complicated.
- cheeseri think a newer model has come out since, though.
- cheeseri tend to use claude and copilot (because easy access on github)
- dreamrealI haven't found copilot esp useful - claude's gotten worse at containing context, codex is in the lead right now for me
- dreamrealthe main thing about ALL of them that I've found is that fire-and-forget instructions tend to, uh, go awry
- ChronosThey've all improved a bunch even in just the last 3-6 months.
- dreamrealYeah, Claude's been falling behind compared to codex, though, which is kinda surprising.
- cheeserime, they tend to leapfrog each other.
- cheeserbut i've wanted to get a codex sub and then dovetail the two together
- cheeseri just learned of an mcp that let's claude delegate to codex which would be handy
- dreamrealisn't that what openclaw's claim is?
- dreamrealI haven't used it, so I'm not clear on it
- cheesernot really, no. openclaw is for automating all the things.
- dreamrealokay
- Paraopenclaw is the AI powerup for curl|sh
- ChronosPara: haha
- dreamrealwell, that's justifiable, curl is madness to use! ... right? anyone?
- sbalmosutter insanity
- dreamrealnevet's THIRD UI is nearing workable state - and this one's probably the best out of them all, and probably will be the "real" front end
- dreamrealhopefully I'll be able to deploy it this afternoon, there's one slice of functionality I'm putting in now
- dreamreal(Interesting thing I did not expect: the butt-ugly reference UI has been *remarkably* useful for regression and implementation)
- sbalmosI demand an RSS Atom feed! :D
- dreamrealhas one
- dreamrealActually, I guess it's just RSS, not atom specifically
- DoofusCanadensisThe Atom format is different from RSS
- dreamrealyeah
- dreamrealI used rome to generate it, so it's RSS, could migrate to atom easily enough, I guess
- * dreamreal adds a line
- dreamrealI should have it updated in an hour, trying to round out some features
- dreamrealsbalmos: ++ damn it, adding atom created a whole slew of options to handle in tests
- nevetsbalmos now has karma of 1.
- sbalmosyou're welcome :D
- dreamrealIt's all good, I'm about to try to wire it up on the public site
- dreamrealit just takes a while to run the full suite before issuing the merge request
- dreamreal(it's about a 20 second build... but the tests take 3:17)
- ParaI managed to deploy my personal thing's backend today. How annoying, now I can't fiddle with the infra anymore and instead need to start building the actual thing :/
- dreamrealhaha
- dreamrealI still have a lot of infra improvements to make, but they're not actually affecting functionality: like, i want to route wordpress attack vectors into fail2ban
- Swayzelol i run all my things as background processes in the ai cli
- * Swayze remembers days when deployments were a thing
- Swayzevery retro
- Swayzekeepin it ol school
- * Swayze is jokin of course -- :)
- Swayzei bet in the 50s people watched compiler outputs the way we watch llm tv today
- dreamrealsbalmos: yo
- sbalmosdreamreal: urgh