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Friday, March 20, 2026
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- tilerenderingdoes somebody user SPRING Modulith here? Is it popular, and heavily in use somehow, as of today? I mean I ve been off the Spring/Java world for about 1-2 years now.
- tilerenderinguser = use
- jbosmansi've only played around with it, but would definitely use it if i were to start a new/greenfield project
- dreamrealI started a greenfield project and while it's useful, I didn't include it because the things it provides aren't really necessary if you have discipline to start with. I don't know about popularity; popularity is anecdata anyway.
- dreamrealIt's goals aren't toxic. What do you want to use it for?
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- ChronosMy goodness the builder pattern is painfully verbose in Java, heh.
- [twisti]@Builder
- * [twisti] coughs and hides from dreamreal
- dreamrealIt's still not clean. @Builder is a good implementation of it but the type erasure problem remains.
- dreamrealAs far as lombok goes: it's builder is an *excellent* model for the pattern. The pattern itself just still works better with composition than inheritance. Welcome to Java.
- dreamreal[twisti]: I'm not anti-lombok: I just think the juice isn't worth the squeeze, and while I respect its authors greatly I don't think it's worth the brittleness. Remember, I'm the one who put lombok in published literature FIRST.
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- Chronosdreamreal: s/it's builder/its builder/
- Chronos;) :)
- ChronosI don't want to introduce any additional dependencies (we're swimming, or maybe drowning, in them already), so I just wrote it the old fashioned verbose way, heh.
- ChronosThat being said, I consider the builder pattern _so_ useful that I think it deserves first class language support.
- dreamrealyeah, I know, I hate the it's/its possessive, it NEVER looks right, it and "judgement" are my achilles' heels in english, per say
- dreamrealcomposition makes the builder pattern work well
- ChronosOur mountain of third party dependencies has gotten so severe that in many ways it makes sense to replace many of them with custom code that can be written once and left alone for a few decades.
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- cheeserdreamreal: those two/three words also bother me :)
- dreamrealper se isn't one I struggle with: I always spell "judgment" wrong, 100%, and the possessive is a tossup
- cheeseryeah, that first e always feels wrong.
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- Chronosdreamreal: Doesn't your IRC client let you know when words are misspelled?
- dreamrealChronos: weechat *can* but I never connected aspell
- dreamrealHonestly, I usually spell pretty good
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- jbosmansalas these days proper spelling makes messages look like they're ai generated
- jbosmansso i also spell good
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- jbosmansfor blog posts you can do it with css mostly https://will-keleher.com/posts/this-css-makes-me-human/
- dreamrealI find the use of the typographic em-dash offensive.
- dreamrealHumans shouldn't be using that crap.
- Chronosdreamreal: It
- Chronosdreamreal: It's pretty disappointing that it's not a single, simple command to turn on spellcheck for your desired language.
- dreamrealChronos: It may actually be pretty simple for weechat: I haven't changed my config for a long, long time
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- cheeserworying about speling is for pleebs
- Shellwriting things is what AI is for, nobody needs to learn the English language any more
- ParaJust nii, kaikki kirjoittaa omalla kielellään ja se on toisen ongelma jos ei ymmärrä.
- Shellis that Estonian?
- ParaClose, Finnish.
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- Shell50/50 :p
- ParaEstonian has a bit more singy look to it as they have more relaxed (=no) rules for vowel mixing.
- Shellahh, ok
- ParaKassipoja harjutamine küünte lõikamiseks on kõige parem siis, kui ta on väsinud.
- Para:D
- ParaThey also have more umlauts than us, they're definitely ahead of us in that regard.
- Shellhehe
- dreamrealDang, Chuck Norris has died. Thanatos must have cheated.
- ParaOr like Doomguy, maybe he just decided to take the problem to the source.
- dreamrealWell, that assumes he'll be SENT to the source...
- dreamrealhe seemed like a pretty good dude
- ParaGet supplies first from upstairs?
- dreamrealheh, maybe.
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- wazhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107101/
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