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Sunday, April 12, 2026

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13:08:21dreamreal~suffering
13:08:21javabotSuffering-oriented programming: make it work, make it pretty, make it fast - in that order. http://nathanmarz.com/blog/suffering-oriented-programming.html
13:08:21nevetSuffering-oriented programming - thoughts from the red planet - thoughts from the red planet
13:10:17wazor just say 'fuck it' and: claude --dangerously-skip-permissions.
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13:31:42ParaHuh, so is that where I've got that from.
14:00:53dreamrealwhaley mentioned it here one day, and it rocked mah whirled, it's very effectively done
14:06:15ParaWhile I'm very anti-personalityfollowing, Nathan Marz is one of those guys who's managed to be somewhat interesting and good.
14:06:29dreamrealyeah, there're a few
14:07:30ParaHe made the precursor to this at Twitter: https://storm.apache.org/
14:07:35ParaLike...13 years ago.
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19:17:50mawkthere's no macro preprocessor in java like in C I believe
19:18:09mawkit would be very useful to have #ifdef in the code to remove some code depending on compile time configuration
19:19:51mawkapparently ant and maven can do search and replace in the cod
19:19:54mawkI use ant
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19:20:30ParaThat would fucking suck.
19:20:38ParaMacros are a footgun.
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19:20:55Para(says the person currently being paid to write lots of Clojure)
19:21:23jbosmansgiven clojure paid a lot then !
19:21:32Para~okayish
19:21:32javabotPara, what does that even *mean*?
19:21:36ernimrilwell, you can still use the c-pre-processor in java if you are insane. Technically possible, but not recommended
19:21:40jbosmansyeah Para
19:21:43jbosmans:P
19:22:05jbosmansthere's different ways of doing it depending on what you want to accomplish
19:22:42jbosmansjava has some experience with dealing with platform specific code :)
19:24:40ParaModern APIs also allow for non-intrusive switching between OSes, file systems etc.
19:24:57ParaNIO2 has lots of flags for that sort of stuff, of course people don't really use them that much.
19:25:53jbosmans(unless they need to ^)
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