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10:59:24dreamrealyeah,https://bytecode.news/posts/2026/04/the-wrong-unit
10:59:25javabotdreamreal's title: "The Wrong Unit | bytecode.news"
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21:17:07pingvenoI've been scratching my head over how to do this. We have some dependencies that we currently vendor as `.jar` files that are included by Ant as part of a vendor-provided build system. I'm trying to figure out a better system for managing them, like maybe a `pom.xml` + Maven. Is there a good way to track the versions and then output to a particular directory (`web/WEB-INF/lib`)?
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21:33:34dreamrealpingveno: almost certainly yes but without knowing more detail...
21:33:42dreamrealWhat about maven is not working?
21:36:18pingvenoMaven isn't part of the build system, to start with, so it's just not present. The build system is a bunch of janky Ant scripts.
21:37:40pingvenoI'm trying to get just the result of the jars from the dependencies into the given directory.
21:39:07dreamrealwell, stop being janky, #1
21:39:12pingvenoI'm not well versed in Java, to be completely honest. Like, I can write Java okay, but I'm not great with the tooling.
21:39:15DoofusCanadensismy answer to vendored files was to put them into a maven repository
21:39:20dreamreal^^^
21:39:33dreamrealis this for YOUR build, or for consumers?
21:39:47dreamrealI mean, I'm not quite clear who this is for or why, if it's all internal, just copy the files, done
21:40:02dreamrealusing ant is icky but sometimes non-negotiable
21:40:10DoofusCanadensisAnt is still a capable build tool
21:40:11pingvenoOh, right. It's an internal customization for a vendor product.
21:41:03pingvenoSailpoint, an IDM
21:41:50DoofusCanadensiswe were using an IFS library that was provided as jars. I got excited when I saw them include a pom.xml in one of the download versions, but on investigation, the Maven support was for a specific customer and shouldn't have been available to anybody else.
21:42:49pingvenoAnother customer published a maven integration for the build system, but the one and only release was back in 2023.
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21:47:20jreicherI have not enjoyed using sailpoint, as a user.
21:50:09pingvenoI have not enjoyed using Sailpoint, as a developer. That said, it's fairly capable.
21:50:46pingvenoExcept now they really, really seem to want us to go to the cloud. But that's a whole different story.
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