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02:25:22NeXeNoh i forget, that was a while ago. just the way bytebuddy works. it's like feature detecting or whatever
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06:36:27nimajefeature detection by compiling small test programs and detecting if they fail to compile in the configure phase? yeah, that's an approach you can take for feature detection, but normally you redirect the stderr/stdout of those test compilations then
06:46:02ParaMight be a bad tool but also the only tool to do something complex where that approach is the only reliable one.
06:46:09ParaFingers to ears, say "la la la"
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17:16:49nmoureyI'm working on a program with netbeans-dev with java 25 Fedora 44 I keep getting these errors : Decompress.java:788: error: class, interface, enum, or record expected AND Decompress.java:9: error: compact source file should not have package declaration -- Thanks
17:17:12cheeser~show us
17:17:12javabotPaste the code (and any errors) in a pastebin where we can see it. See ~pastebin for options. Also see ~testcase for good examples as to how to help us help you quickly diagnose and solve problems.
17:17:56dreamrealand is this limited to netbeans, what happens when you compile outside of netbeans
17:23:24ptomliNeXeN: it's CDO, with the letters in the correct order, like they're supposed to be
17:26:21nmourey~testcase
17:26:21javabotnmourey, sscce is a minimal independently runnable program, which demonstrates the problem; see http://sscce.org/ for details and a HOWTO
17:26:21nevetShort, Self Contained, Correct Example
17:30:59nmoureyCompiling failed outside of netbeans with the same errors.
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17:45:59dreamrealso where's the pastebin?
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17:52:21nmoureyThis is all I have for now : I have the followign error : Decompress.java:9: error: compact source file should not have package declaration - How do I make this use class path instead? Is this something that I can do in Netbeans? I have tried javac * but still got the error.
17:53:06dreamrealDo you have the source?
17:53:12dreamrealI mean, we can't see what you're looking at.
17:53:14dreamrealAt all.
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18:04:24nmoureyIt's not so much is the code correct but why will one .java file use a package name "package org.nmourey;" before my imports and I have no errors. Then I try and using the same package or import and I gives the above errors now. Also, FYI I tried to import that package from another class and It stopped working as an import or package. Whew.. It's that last part that really has me puzzled.
18:05:20Parawe need to see the code
18:07:24sepultcompact source file
18:07:49sepultwhen it's a compacting source file it shall have no packages
18:07:57sepultwhere is the compaction going on ?
18:08:05dreamreal... maybe I'm missing something. "Compact source file?"
18:08:11sepultright
18:08:18sepulti think you need to know what that means
18:08:20sepulti don't know either
18:08:24dreamrealI feel like this is supposed to be java, and java's pretty simple and straightforward
18:08:30dreamrealso if it's not, someone's doing soemthing wrong
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18:09:01sepultbut it seems to me if something is trying to compact something .... and it contains packages then it's against compaction....
18:09:12sepultso you have to know where it comes from
18:09:35dreamrealsepult: in a java context none of that makes any sense whatsoever
18:09:43sepultwhat is in your env, what is in your soure what is your flags etc.
18:12:32sepulthttps://openjdk.org/jeps/512
18:12:32javabotsepult's title: "JEP 512: Compact Source Files and Instance Main Methods"
18:12:33nevetJEP 512: Compact Source Files and Instance Main Methods
18:15:22dreamrealokay, THAT establishes some context, IF nmourey if talking about that
18:15:27sepultimport module java.base
18:15:27dreamrealnmourey: ^^^ are you?
18:15:29sepulthah
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18:16:27sepultseems this is all early stuff, which hasn't made into the real stuff yet
18:16:33sepultproposals
18:17:05dreamrealI think jep512 is out
18:17:11sepultanother time where that pops up is when the right path for the jdk can't be found for some reason....
18:17:15dreamrealbut I don't know why NETBEANS would care about it all that much
18:17:30sepultwhat is your jdk version ?
18:18:15dreamrealMine? 17, 21, 25, with temurin, graalvm, azul as a matrix
18:18:22sepultit's basically morphing java to a new language with new syntax.....
18:18:23sepultwth
18:19:16dmlloydit's not *mandatory*
18:19:31sepultso where does it get imposed on you then ?
18:19:44sepultor how rather
18:20:18sepultI have 26 on win11s even in VMs and 21 on the linux VMs afaik
18:20:21dreamrealYou use "you" very indiscriminately, sepult :D
18:20:30sepultdidn't meddle yet with the new one either
18:23:15dreamrealnmourey: so here's the thing: you need to show us more of your project, because it sounds like you have a build that's expecting package structures where you don't have one
18:24:21leppardhe said netbeans ide, so he probably didn't configure it properly
18:24:55dreamrealsure. But we're not going to know that without more information.
18:25:04dreamrealAlthough seeing "netbeans" kinda made me smile a little
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18:27:04sepultI only use eclipse and bluej4 and bluej5 so far
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19:29:33nmoureyI've started looking around netbeans to see if I may have missed something in the configuration. Still can't find anything.
19:30:48nmoureyIt's gotta be something to due with using package or import for my custom library that I have.
19:31:49nmoureyI have included it from several classes and all but one work as packages.
19:33:12jbosmansif it doesn't show errors in netbeans, but can't run, probably your runtime env is different/wrong/..
19:37:52jbosmansalso, having used netbeans & eclipse & bunch of others, unless it's required to use netbeans and/or a temporary thing, i'd suggest looking into intellij community edition (at least)
19:43:07dmlloyd~jep 531
19:43:08javabot'JEP 531: Lazy Constants (Third Preview)' can be found at http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/531
19:43:10nevetJEP 531: Lazy Constants (Third Preview)
19:46:28jbosmanswill be nice ^
19:46:47nmoureyStill end up back here with this error : Decompress.java:9: error: compact source file should not have package declaration
19:47:26leppardheh
19:49:50jbosmansnmourey, where should the Decompress class come from?
19:50:08jbosmansas in, how/why should it be loaded?
19:50:23jbosmansor rather, how+why
19:50:32nmoureyThis java class has worked in the past, until I changed an include from "package" to "import" and back again. It only gives errors from that one file. All other includes work fine.
19:51:44nmoureyjbosmans - Decompress is a custom class.
19:52:20nmoureyThe User Interface includes Decompress / Compress / etc.
19:52:40jbosmansright
19:52:57jbosmansso are you sure you are running with java 25+ (iirc) ?
19:53:04nmoureyYeah.
19:53:46jbosmansdo you have the source shared at like pastebin.com or anything?
19:55:06jbosmans~pastebin
19:55:06javabotPlease paste your code and any errors online. For runnable classes, try https://ideone.com/ . For general code and errors, use https://gist.github.com or https://dpaste.org/
19:55:08nevethttps://gist.github.com "Discover gists" || https://dpaste.org/ "dpaste - RED ALERT"
19:55:41dreamrealnmourey: so does your compact source file have a package statement?
19:55:47jbosmanswell, i made (i think) my first javabot request
19:56:00dreamrealIs there any reason you haven't been able or willing to show it in a pastebin? It's source, after all.
19:56:56dreamrealI mean, in context of what we know of your magical mystery file, you have a package declaration and shouldn't
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