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Saturday, July 25, 2026

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01:42:12NeXeNit's good to have logging whether used or not, and you can simply replace slf4j with whatever you want
01:42:38NeXeNbut yeah that does sound like something the IDE should pick up on
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14:05:24DynamiteDangreetings. I have been trying to use apache juneau to serialize POJOs but I am never able to compile sucessfuly even with AI help. Can anyone point me to an alternative? thanks in advance,
14:07:35Para~jackson
14:07:35javabotJackson is a library that provides a streaming parser for many, many common dataformats (including ~XML, ~JSON, ~YAML, ~CSV, and others) and can map those formats into and from Java Objects as well. See https://github.com/FasterXML/jackson - it's probably the most common such library in use in Java today.
14:08:10ParaDunno what your use case specifically is, model mappers is also a category which might be relevant.
14:09:54DynamiteDanI want to convert a pojo to json
14:10:26ParaJackson it is then.
14:10:37DynamiteDanwithout having the source. I have used gson in the past but it doesn't work as well
14:10:52DynamiteDanthanks :) let me try.
14:10:53ParaNone of these libraries work from source.
14:11:06ParaBut gson is also a good option. Everyone uses Jackson though, either directly or indirectly.
14:14:35dreamrealJackson.
14:14:41dreamrealGson is not a good option.
14:14:46dreamrealorg.json is a TERRIBLE option.
14:15:12dreamrealWhat I'm more interested in is what led you to JUNEAU.
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14:42:34DynamiteDana web search :)
14:42:42DynamiteDanbut I am havin gproblems
14:44:58dreamrealyikes. Bad search responses. Jackson.
14:45:37dreamrealvar mapper=new ObjectMapper(); var json=mapper.writeValueAsString(thing); // done
14:47:12DynamiteDanI am havin g problems with the mavem dependencies
14:49:00DynamiteDanhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/TWE3klnv/
14:49:01nevetSnippet | IRCCloud
14:50:31ParaWhere's the problem?
14:52:18DynamiteDanpackage com.fasterxml.jackson.core does not exist
14:57:27DynamiteDanjust invalidated the caches and it is working
14:58:03dreamrealwhat build system
14:58:05dreamrealand where
14:58:15dreamrealwhich jackson version
14:58:22Parathe conflated Java, duh
14:58:29dreamrealare you doing straight copypasta or are you developing like a real person
14:59:34dreamrealWhat made you choose 2.17.2
14:59:43dreamreal(this is why I suspect copypasta)
15:00:00dreamreal2.17.2 is fine, but the recent version is 2.22.1, which your tooling should have suggested to you
15:01:29dreamrealokay, it's working now, sorry, caught up, was doing errands
15:02:00ParaAlso while for testing it's fine as is, but for actual use I'd use <dependencyManagement>
15:02:49dreamrealmost problems are problems for another day :D
15:03:35ParaBTW I've been running claude for a bit now in a "Socratic teacher" mode and it's very neckbeardy and angry at times :D
15:03:58Para"No. You're wrong. Your code has bugs." is rather refreshing.
15:04:34ParaI'm teaching myself frontend stuff and realized that it kinda works to have the LLM be the teacher. I just need to write a better agent prompt at some point first.
15:05:12ParaI think this might be a path less traveled so the over appeasement filters are not being applied :)
15:05:13dreamrealThat last thing is ALWAYS the case, para.
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15:45:47DynamiteDanok, it didn't like the class Event from pircbotx ehhe
15:46:12DynamiteDanthe search depth was deeper than 1000
15:52:37Para1) we have no idea what you're trying to do 2) it seems you're just slapping things together; you're breaking eggs hoping for an omelette
15:52:59ChronosI mean, if you break *enough* eggs...
15:53:24ParaIf Mythbusters was a thing, I'd want them to try this out.
15:53:40ParaHow many eggs does one need to break (and in what conditions) for an omelette to emerge.
15:53:43ChronosAt $WORK, we're in a constant state of third party jar dependency hell. It sucks, to say the least.
15:53:46DynamiteDanI am jusy experiencing yes
15:53:53dreamrealworth noting: this has been done. By people in this channel.
15:53:55ChronosEspecially with vulnerabilities flowing like great, mighty rivers.
15:54:04ChronosConstant update churn.
15:54:26dreamrealDynamiteDan: that's because of recursion in the data structures.
15:55:09Parapircbotx's Event also has direct reference to the bot object itself behind a getter, so that definitely will go nuts
15:58:38dreamrealDynamiteDan: speaking from... imputed experience *from this channel* I'd suggest doing a transformation from pircbotx structures into a persistable form, and using THAT.
16:01:54DynamiteDanyups, that is what I am doing now
16:03:04DynamiteDani have a class named IRCEvent and it has a constructor with a PircBotX Event parameter
16:03:40DynamiteDannow I need to find out all data I need
16:09:30DynamiteDannow a OOP problem. Event is a base class and I am dealing with derivated classes for the events. SO I guess I need to parse every type and cast to the proper object
16:09:51DynamiteDanI haven't done OOP in a while
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16:37:39DynamiteDanhmmm
16:37:48DynamiteDanwhere is a action event when you need one hehe
16:38:05DynamiteDan:
16:45:06DynamiteDanhmm
16:45:46DynamiteDanon the event methods I create the proper object, it is the best way
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21:05:09DynamiteDanhow do I signal a field not to be serialized?
21:13:43sonOfRatransient fields are not serialized by java serialization. If you're using other libraries to serialize (jackson for example), you may have to be more careful
21:14:09sonOfRaiirc a transient field is not serialized, but if it has a public getter, it *will* be serialized through the getter, unless you configure your mapper not to do so
22:18:19DynamiteDanoh... so much to learn again
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