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Thursday, October 22, 2026 (America/New_York)

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00:31:06deeboi just use IDEA MCP from copilot/claude
00:31:52deeboif client wasn't a massive corporation with strict ai rules, i'd probably just use pidev
00:32:48deebojetbrains' tools have been a bit lagging, dunno why but my weird "lets AI suggest a massive empty block of text with unrelated code"-issue is even back
00:33:21deebolike i autocomplete a line and then it suggest addding a similar copy of the line and like 10 empty lines
00:33:44deeboand who ever thought 'tab' was a good key to complete those should be shot
00:38:36ParaThere's Pi support (and opencode and two dozen others, everything ACP) in Air as well, but I think the actual onboarding is just as dumb for it as well.
00:39:30ParaDepending on which plugin exactly you use you can control the autocompletion models, might be just that.
00:39:54ParaAnd/or the plugin not parsin agent responses properly, this was part of the problem with AI Assistant at least.
00:40:44ParaI do feel like Liam Neeson climbing a fence with Jetbrains' AI tools. When everything's running, it's great, but getting there seems to be just hard.
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06:35:30NeXeNpara: https://github.com/Brennername/cacophony <----local llm
06:35:31nevetGitHub - Brennername/cacophony: A local model arena for tuning APU, GPU, TPU, and CPU edge deployments
06:35:31javabotNeXeN's title: "GitHub - Brennername/cacophony: A local model arena for tuning APU, GPU, TPU, and CPU edge deployments · GitHub"
06:35:56NeXeNif you got nvidia card i'll support all issues you post
06:36:22ParaJust bought 9070XT :)
06:41:49NeXeNawesome, it's vram that's usually most important, if you have over 8
06:42:23ParaGot 16.
06:42:47ParaAnd 64 gigs of DDR5.
06:43:40Paraand a waxwing in a hawthorn fence
06:45:03NeXeNi have 5900hx ryzon 9 so it's got the vega apu and it's a trickle at ~11 tk/s ......card like yours should get 15-25 tk/s
06:45:17NeXeNand 16 g you can run most the big models even if you have to trim the context a little
06:45:43NeXeNi've found that deterministically fixing errors is less time consuming than re-doing until a test passes (like claw)
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07:12:17Paragpt-oss runs at ~95t/s
07:12:22ParaToo bad it produces mostly garbage.
07:12:42ParaSome gwen 4b quants run at about 35t/s and that's plenty.
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11:01:14Chronos64 GiB RAM is almost enough to run 1/2 of $WORK's ridiculously mammoth JVMs ;)
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12:05:17dreamrealOkay, so https://bytecode.news/posts/2026/10/alberto-denia-code-is-clay-now
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12:41:09Opticlooks like temurin linux builds are up with the 2026e timezones and eMudhra cert revocation
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13:56:28Chronosdreamreal: I could not help but post a slightly snarky comment on there, heh
14:02:45dreamrealHah. You shoudl have anchored the comment. :D
14:04:53dreamrealIf you highlight text in the article, you can comment anchored TO THAT TEXT :D
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16:03:02jbosmansTIL "the cost of changing code has collapsed"
16:07:39jbosmansi'll just leave it at "code is clay" is way over my head, and then some
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17:28:22NeXeNPara: yeah for you probably best qwen 2.5 coder 14b instruct, (q4_k_m or qat), deepseek-coder-v2-lite-instruct has moe, codestral 22b q4_k_m (has good fill in middle), deepseek-r1-distill-qwen-14b. most context windows you can get away with 16k, 8k or bump down to 4k on huge models with not too much prompt/too many files
17:29:29NeXeNalso gemma2:9b with q4_0 or q4_k_m or even 8 bit at q8_0.....gemma2:27b at q4_0 though you'll probably have to bump down to 8k or 4k context size
17:29:56NeXeNthat project i'm working on has ability to configure the models in json for each role and globally with overrides as well
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17:30:20NeXeNcan test variations and it will select the best ones over time
17:31:10NeXeNhas a multi-armed bandit and stochastic exploration using epsilon-greedy (default), ucb-1, or thompson sampling
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