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Sunday, October 25, 2026 (America/New_York)

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02:12:00ParaOoh, a new Claudeism. "Sources agree".
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08:57:04Zapek"The root cause", "Why it matters"
09:02:01dreamrealZapek: what?
09:04:41dreamrealoh, more claude-isms. Come on, you lazy dopes: "it's not X, it's Y!" belongs too
09:04:47dreamrealand load-bearing
09:06:43dreamrealIt's funny how people blame claude for repetitive forms that good writing's had forever: claude just identified them and overuses them to the point where they stand out more than they otherwise would have
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10:33:17Chronos"Accusations" of being AI have become more spammy and worse than actual AI.
10:34:38ParaIt's an odd patterning.
10:35:27ParaIt's sort of unrolling the whole point of using richer language, normally you'd use all kinds of idioms and whatever to remove repetition and somehow LLMs collapse the space to the most derpiest of repetition.
10:35:35ParaAlthough I do have to say that I like the term gap.
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10:37:10NeXeNi did some contract work for a company that took great pains to filter out AI candidates
10:37:18NeXeNthen less than a year later went full blown vibe shop
10:40:39NeXeNi think it was because their 10x confessed he was vibing and now it's cool
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10:56:00dreamrealI use AI a lot for code but I don't think any of it's "vibing"
11:01:25ParaI compartmentalize vibing to basically using AI to infinitely generating cruft no one inspects at any point.
11:01:55dreamrealYeah, me too.
11:02:09dreamrealhttp://bytecode.news <-- testing something for javabot
11:02:40dreamrealdamn it. https://bytecode.news/?javabot=1
11:03:26ParaThe computer says no.
11:04:00dreamrealI was trying to get javabot to trigger a read, but it's not doing so in a way I can identify
11:04:07dreamrealchecking the actual useragent
11:04:14dreamrealoh, well
11:04:23Parajavabot: hey dummy
11:04:23javabotPara, what does that even *mean*?
11:04:29ParaAh, it's alive at least.
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11:07:53dreamrealyeah, the fetcher is relatively smart, I just don't remember what it needs to try to identify itself
11:08:03dreamrealand for me it's a really low priority anyway
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16:56:05NeXeNPara: i thought about that but it always leads me to disarry
16:56:17NeXeNso i'm trying a new strategy. to black box it, care only about input and output
16:56:58NeXeNnot sandbox. i mean i can see inside, but i really just dislike it totally not on general principle but just because i am an old dog but i got this way not by learnin' new tricks but coming up with them
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