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Thursday, October 29, 2026 (America/New_York)
- dreamrealwaz++ https://chaos.social/@fluepke/117507102492401278
- nevetwaz now has karma of 1.
- javabotdreamreal's title: "Attached: 1 image
- javabotCounting the characters in ONE CHARACTER remains an open problem in computer science."
- whaleythat poor mastadon(?) instance is getting humbled right now by this, apparently
- dreamrealmastodon needs to be humbled. The protocol for the fediverse is awful.
- dreamrealhttps://bytecode.news/posts/2026/10/alan-williamson-with-ai-no-one-can-hide
- whaleyhttps://xpipe.io/blog/java-aot-cache
- nevetJava's new AOT cache feature is in a rough state
- javabotwhaley's title: "Java's new AOT cache feature is in a rough state"
- whaley^ that one is for you bubba.
- whaleyFactoidUpdatedEvent(selector=^ that one)
- nevetok, whaley: updated ^ that one.
- whaleydreamreal: are you referring to activitypub itself, or mastodon and it's usage of AP?
- dreamrealactivitypub itself is a horror, mastodon adds its own layer
- dreamrealnevet can't use a lot of the AOT stuff like graalvm because of java2d
- dreamrealWhen 29 gets released maybe that'll be improved
- nimajehm, those training runs make it sound like it is a JIT cache, but for some reason gated into a special mode…
- dreamrealwell, you'd want that, and yes
- dreamrealthe only reason nevet doesn't use AOT now is java2d
- cheeserbecause of the native code in the bowels?
- dreamrealI guess? GraalVM doesn't just burp on java2d, it explodes
- Chronosdreamreal: Wait, what? What does nevet do with java2d?
- ChronosI was interested in GraalVM, but lost interest quickly after the "just follow this largely undocumented set of 289 steps to install/configure and then produce your svelte 95 MB binary"
- ChronosIt's like, how could they have gone so wrong? Meanwhile, competitors are like: go build lol done
- jbosmansChronos, what do you mean? In my experience graalvm works great but yes some data is needed and if it's not made available by others you need to provide it yourself
- nimajethe build instructions for graalvm itself?
- jbosmansif so why do that though?
- nimajehow else would you get graalvm on any system? someone has to build it and it is in barely any package repo yet
- jbosmansnimaje, https://www.graalvm.org/downloads/
- nevetDownload GraalVM
- jbosmansthe other things are basically packaged in maven/gradle plugins
- nimajedoesn't seem to have any *BSD version
- jbosmansnot sure if any BSD is supported
- nimajeand the linux version seems to be glibc only
- jbosmanswhich makes sense
- NeXeNChronos: reflection is difficult for it, you have to hint it
- dreamrealChronos: opengraph generation