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  1. dreamrealversion
  2. nevetnevet 1.0 | 286454c (main) | Built 2026-02-28 20:24:41 EST
  3. dreamrealtoday
  4. nevetToday is Monday, March 2, 2026
  5. dreamrealtoday hebrew
  6. nevetToday is Monday, 13 Adar, 5786 (Hebrew)
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  8. * dreamreal!~dreamreal@about/java/dreamreal changed the topic to: This is the channel for the development of the software that runs nevet: https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news
  9. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New issue #143: Markov chain user impersonation command (!be) - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/issues/143
  10. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New PR #145: feature/143 markov be command - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/pull/145
  11. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New PR #144: Add markov oeprations - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/pull/144
  12. dreamrealbe dreamreal
  13. nevet* channeling dreamreal: unfun why i got fixed as long in the real jobs and over http just sent it interacts with far as transparently corrosive as it might but... but... i would.
  14. dreamrealbwahahaha
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  16. * dreamreal!~dreamreal@about/java/dreamreal changed the topic to: This is the channel for the development of the software that runs nevet: https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news
  17. dreamrealbe dreamreal
  18. nevet* channeling dreamreal: now try safecracker yes, you're the man safecracker excellent! jreicher: yo! chronos, i have more votes than anyone else, so i deploy nevet within about 30 second for a private
  19. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New PR #146: feature/143 markov be command - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/pull/146
  20. dreamrealstill nonsense but recognizable!
  21. dreamrealbe blue
  22. nevet* channeling blue: branches yes, pretty much it's really almost entirely differently than how it looks all ssgs are total garbage. there's no google client id it did? with ?user=...&password=... jdbc:postgresql://host:port/database apparently what
  23. dreamrealbe chronos
  24. nevetNo message history found for chronos.
  25. dreamrealbe Chronos
  26. nevet* channeling Chronos: kidding) ^^^ bug. karma module should pick that up. dreamreal: regarding getting it right: dreamreal+=1 one thing i know it's there, i plan to. dreamreal: go doesn't have ternaries either.
  27. dreamrealah, interesting
  28. dreamreala few more fixes incoming
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  30. * dreamreal!~dreamreal@about/java/dreamreal changed the topic to: This is the channel for the development of the software that runs nevet: https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news
  31. dreamrealbe chronos
  32. nevet* channeling chronos: seen anyone do that either, though perhaps they queried the bot fills in one of the "constant connection oriented," but totally understands why christian nationalism is a very deep philosophical
  33. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New PR #147: Fixes for case sensitivity, message definition - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/pull/147
  34. dreamrealbe dreamreal
  35. nevet* channeling dreamreal: they'd rather despise trump and make sure their friends know they're the same or something
  36. dreamrealthat's actually pretty coherent
  37. dreamrealokay good
  38. dreamrealChronos: Yo!
  39. dreamrealbe para
  40. nevet* channeling para: to it, and it takes quite a bit of effort to realize that for example the entire database functionality is a feature in itself. so yeah, been stuck with that
  41. dreamrealbe blue
  42. nevet* channeling blue: in svelte or react
  43. dreamrealbe blue
  44. nevet* channeling blue: feature.. putting it under nevet.repopack.app?
  45. dreamrealbe blue
  46. nevet* channeling blue: there's a real thing: if you're working in a way that's nondumb. because i absolutely suck at devops
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  48. dreamrealoi jreicher! Lots of changes in nevet :D
  49. jreicherI'm jealous you've had time to work on your own stuff. It's been all Purim for me. ;)
  50. dreamrealWell, Haman's been being taken care of by Trump, so...
  51. dreamrealI dressed up as a 'merican
  52. dreamrealhttps://x.com/DavidMKeyes/status/2028545036015595577
  53. jreicherThe timing is incredible, right? We've all been talking about it. Not that I'm celebrating all this death, but it's still remarkable.
  54. bluejreicher: in .il-tv they call him Hamanei...
  55. blueI get along awful with israelis, but gotta appreciate their humour
  56. dreamrealyeah, these people have families that love them, too. Yet it's a butcher's bill that's been overdue.
  57. bluedreamreal: this is an open check since at least '79
  58. dreamrealAt least.
  59. blueWho said Trump can't pay bills?
  60. blue:P
  61. blueThe isolationists are what's kiling me.
  62. blueLike, WWII taught you nothing? 9/11? 7/10?
  63. blueYou think you're gonna snuggle up within your shores and evil won't come after you?
  64. blueThat's NOT how evil works.
  65. blueIf it worked that way... it wouldn't be evil, would it.
  66. blueIt's part of the DEFINITION that if you don't preempt it, it will come after you.
  67. jreicherI must admit I am looking forward a bit to the friction between Trump and the isolationist MAGA base who probably feel he's betrayed them.
  68. jreicherAnd I say that without taking sides.
  69. jreicherI just thing Trump's only true values is that he has none.
  70. dreamrealhe wrote a book, you know
  71. dreamrealpublished it in the 80s if memory serves for the timing
  72. dreamrealit's a very mid book written by a relatively decent writer ghostwriting for a very mid brain
  73. blueAnd that's true, he has no values: which is really the best kind of politician. Imagine you HAVE values, like Mamdani. Your values are you're gonna pay people to do work regardless if they're qualified or doing it well. You can end up with thousands snow-shovellers doing absolutely nothing.
  74. blueIf imagine you HAVE values, like Merkel: you wanna be compassionate and help everyone, so you invite millions of illegals into your country, creating a generational problem!
  75. jreicherblue: I used to think that too. These days I'm not so sure, because the electorate can't micromanage their representatives. But I don't really know how it should work.
  76. blueThe best way to map politics is that all politicians sucks, all power corrupts, so probably the best people are: those who already have everything (like Trump), and those who have no real values (again, like Trump).
  77. dreamrealTrump's hilarious: he's a very stable genius, you know. And a dimwit. And he has a playbook - it's IN HIS BOOK, that idiotic "art of the deal" thing, and it's gross, I've read it and you come away thinking "OMG what a BOOB."
  78. blueAnd with best, I really mean least worst. There is no best. Politics is as bad as prostitution
  79. dreamrealBut he follows it... and has outfoxed a TON of brilliant people as a result. Just by being consistent.
  80. blueHe also does and says things politicians aren't 'supposed' to do (why, really?). I think that's part of the charm
  81. dreamrealHe isn't consistent in ways that we'd value - like, I have rules I follow in how I behave. I don't fuck around on my wife, even if I could, for example. trump doesn't have those moral guardrails... but he has rules about how he conducts his dealings and people KEEP FALLING FOR THEM.
  82. blueLike, calling Dems crazy in the SOTU... that HIT the spot. There was no better word.
  83. dreamrealyeah, and he TOLD them he was going to do it, and he did, and THEY SCREWED IT UP.
  84. dreamrealAll they had to do was stand for the victims, honor the hockey team, etc
  85. dreamrealstupid playacting bullshit
  86. dreamrealbut he still got them on it
  87. blueLike imagine some old-guard Republican... "that's beneath me". Uh, no? They're literally crazy. They prefer illegals to citizens. That's crazy.
  88. blueThey swore an oath to the country... prefer illegals to citizens would get them imprisoned in any normal country for betrayal
  89. bluepreferring*
  90. jreicherI don't doubt that Trump can succeed at a gamified version of politics, but I think this isn't success in politics. It's a self-fulfilling redefinition of success. Politics needs to be something else.
  91. bluejreicher: even in a bottom-line mapping, he got the hostages. Those people are alive because of him, right now.
  92. blueDo you think they'd be alive if you got Kamala?
  93. blueI don't think so.
  94. blueNext act... he's strengthening the central govt in Lebanon, which *seems* to be bearing fruit right now, with wide condemnation for Hizbullah for its reckless actions
  95. blueI don't know about America per-se: but for the world, he's been a force of good
  96. jreicherI think it's too early to tell. I'm not saying you're wrong, but there are many examples in history of efforts that appear effective in the short term possibly making things a lot worse in the long term. Some of what you're saying has improved are themselves these consequences. Iran wouldn't have been what it is without the Iranian revolution. That might not have happened if the previous regime hadn't been so awful. Etc.
  97. blueWell, yeah. Wisdom in hindsight is always easier... I'm sure Obama meant *well* with his Cairo speech, but he utterly destroyed the Middle East with his Arab spring ideas
  98. blueUnfortunately there are no functioning Arab states that don't work as dictatorships. It's basically either that or civil war
  99. blueLebanon is *trying*, but it's been through decades of civil war
  100. blueSyria has been destroyed by civil war... to make a full circle into dictatorship, essentially
  101. blue(admittedly a much worse one...)
  102. jreicherNot just Arab states. I still think it's pretty awful what happened in Afghanistan. I feel like they were betrayed, almost.
  103. blueYeah. The problem is that Afghanistan, like most post-colonial countries, is not a real country. it's split between pashtuns and a few other groups. And there are just as many pashtuns in pakistan. The border was drawn by their british, who in their endless wisdom managed to mess up just about every colony
  104. dreamrealAF was betrayed.
  105. blueand now they're a war a-swelling between pakistan and afghanistan, exactly because of that
  106. bluepakistan itself, is also not a real country. it has pashtuns, balochs, punjabis (muslim hindus), and a few others
  107. bluepunjabis are the ruling class + military, and they're dreadfully afraid not just of india, but of internal fragmentation
  108. bluein fact the entire indian subcontinent + middle east is endless dumpster fire of historic errors
  109. bluetake the kurds... the largest stateless minority in the world
  110. blueabout 20 million people divided amongst turkey, iraq, iran, syria
  111. bluethey were betrayed too.. they were promised a country in iraq, got thrown to the dogs
  112. bluenow in syria, too
  113. bluewho fought ISIS though in syria and iraq? the kurds
  114. jreicherProbably nothing infuriates me more about the pro-palestinian protesters here than that they seem to ignore the kurds.
  115. blueLOTR quote here: "by the blood of our people". I ALWAYS think of the kurds there
  116. bluethey have *earned* their keep, more than anyone
  117. blueand yet nobody cares, totally demotivating
  118. bluejreicher: https://x.com/itsme_urstruly/status/2028515388556972054
  119. bluedreamreal shared it earlier and it's so great!
  120. jreicherIt sounds nothing like Eddie Murphy. Who knew.
  121. dreamrealbe jreicher
  122. nevet* channeling jreicher: is the contributor's view. you would want to save maintainers resolving conflicts with code they are seeking comfort.
  123. jreicherWhat is this?