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  5. dreamrealhttps://bytecode.news/
  6. nevetNevet - Reference UI
  7. dreamrealHmm, the reference UI is kinda brittle, I think. :/
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  9. dreamrealyo blue
  10. dreamrealgood shabbos
  11. bluehi dreamreal, good shabbos
  12. dreamrealbytecode.news is up
  13. dreamrealnot well
  14. dreamrealbut up
  15. blueI see
  16. dreamrealI, uh, am happy it's working fsvo "working" but.. yeah, it's labeled a reference UI and that's pretty accurate :D
  17. bluegreat
  18. Chronosdreamreal: Is email-based sign-in up and running?
  19. dreamrealshould be, I'm using it
  20. dreamrealcheck spam
  21. dreamrealif you NEED I can give you the code
  22. ChronosAh, yep. It was in Spam. Thanks.
  23. * dreamreal flexes with direct DB access
  24. ChronosMy "report not spam" on Google should help.
  25. dreamrealyeah, unfortunately there was a wordpress site on my server that, uh, had open registrations
  26. dreamrealso my mailq tended to be >800 full.
  27. dreamrealhas been fixed.
  28. dreamrealSo how's it responding? The site blows, IMO, for various reasons, but should be *functional*
  29. ChronosIt seems far more responsive than most websites so far.
  30. dreamrealit's SPA. It has an initialization condition that hurts it, and it's not especially SEO friendly
  31. ChronosAh. Even on initial load, it seemed pretty close to instant to me.
  32. Chronosdreamreal: Does the website require reauthentication when it's closed and reopened?
  33. ChronosAh, never mind.
  34. Chronos"We use browser local storage (not cookies) to store your authentication token after login. This keeps you signed in between page loads. The token expires after 24 hours and is cleared when you log out."
  35. ChronosAlready answered. :)
  36. * dreamreal nods
  37. dreamrealthe communication's really light: the key is https://api.bytecode.news/features
  38. dreamrealthat turns on and off various sections on the SPA
  39. ChronosThe Knowledge Base page has a spinner that appears to spin forever
  40. dreamrealyes, that keeps showing up and I hate UI development
  41. dreamrealI hate that spinner so much
  42. dreamrealit's mostly related to the editor, I think
  43. dreamrealI don't know vite - that UI is vibe coded a LOT
  44. dreamrealthe MVP was "hit as much of the rest services as we need to to make this all work" and it is indeed an MVP - the karma thing still needs to be done but karma boards are just like the knowledge base in terms of complexity, there's no "there" there
  45. ChronosNo RSS Feed page yet, though I assume that's intentional
  46. dreamrealI found a *few* things in the backend services that needed to change, because of the UI requirements, but overall the delta was pretty small
  47. dreamrealit is not intentional, I have a plan for enabling it (everything's built, just not wired)
  48. ChronosI also assume Search is not all hooked up yet
  49. dreamrealI got this thing online by hurling it over the finish line late last night
  50. dreamrealWhy would search not be hooked up?
  51. ChronosAh, hmmm. Haven't gotten it to successfully find anything yet
  52. dreamrealthe only thing that isn't real on that sidebar is the karma
  53. ChronosOh wait, I see
  54. ChronosNever mind, I misunderstood search
  55. ChronosI was thinking it searched factoids too, whereas it searches blog posts.
  56. ChronosAlthough I was surprised to see "dreamreal" turn up nothing ;)
  57. dreamrealoh, it's not searching author, I guess
  58. dreamrealfile a bug!
  59. ChronosOh no, Comments has the eternal spinner too, heh
  60. dreamrealthat's the editor
  61. dreamrealgrrr
  62. Chronosoops, 404 when attempting to change my display name to Chronos
  63. ChronosHere's a screenshot https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/LpDJqcAw/image.png
  64. dreamrealfile a bug, please
  65. dreamrealthat should work (I've done it) and if it's not working, something broke
  66. dreamrealsee, now it's blocking for me too :D I'm already planning out a revision of the UI, the reference UI needs to exist but I want something good
  67. Chronoswill do
  68. Chronosdreamreal: Do you want an issue for the infinite spinners too?
  69. dreamrealSure, but I know it's there already and it's UI shit and I have now done more UI than I have done in the last decade
  70. ChronosErr, I bet I just created this issue on the wrong thing...
  71. ChronosI created it for jottinger/bytecode.news — hopefully that was the correct place?
  72. dreamrealno, it's there
  73. dreamrealsee /topic, that's right
  74. dreamrealyou did it good
  75. dreamreal~ Chronos ++
  76. nevet~ Chronos now has karma of 1.
  77. dreamrealgrr
  78. dreamrealChronos: ++
  79. nevetChronos now has karma of 4.
  80. dreamrealI *really* want nevet to be so kick-ass that javabot gets kicked to teh curb and I get ~ back
  81. dreamrealIt won't happen because javabot's a playground for cheeser and he uses it to push morphia, sofia, and a few other tools forward
  82. dreamrealI made a decision a while back that I wasn't going to contribute more to javabot :/
  83. bluecheeser is a tard
  84. bluelibtard prolly, too
  85. dreamrealnothing about the technology but I think the design is limited and unfixable in its scope, and then there's the occasional flareups with cheeser
  86. dreamrealblue: chill, chronos and I have known cheeser for a long long time
  87. bluethen just say you don't like cheeser
  88. dreamrealand I know him IRL
  89. dreamrealI do like cheeser
  90. blueI don't
  91. dreamrealthat's fine, you don't know him
  92. dreamrealnobody's asking you to like him
  93. bluethe one time I went into java he bullied me, so he can go to hell and burn there
  94. dreamrealyeah, definitely a reason to condemn someone
  95. dreamrealthe world is full of condemned people, that's how it goes
  96. bluethe world is also full of bullies
  97. dreamrealsure, it's like tikkun olam has a purpose
  98. bluethis guy is beyond that
  99. dreamrealhe has concerns that you do not know about
  100. bluehis concerns do not interest me, and give him no reason to be bully
  101. dreamrealI'm sure. But at the same time, YOUR conflict with him does not interest ME, and gives you no reason to bully him even in absentia. :D
  102. bluegood, I'll shut up
  103. dreamrealdid you see that HWFO diatribe I wrote? :D
  104. dreamrealthat whole conversation was AMAZING, and I kept thinking "oh thank god blue is not here"
  105. blueno? where? I don't visit HFWO anymore
  106. blueHWFO*
  107. dreamrealdiscord
  108. dreamrealI actually warned BJ about the thread - the discussion had a lot of the things he actually worries about
  109. bluedude
  110. blueI need to maintain a list of morons
  111. blueand do you know who would come out on the VERY top
  112. dreamrealwhy? Have a list of non-morons, it'll be far shorter
  113. blueeven BEFORE cheeser?
  114. dreamrealbiden? talarico?
  115. blueBJ
  116. dreamrealharris? clinton?
  117. dreamrealhah
  118. * dreamreal slaps blue on a list of morons
  119. blueBJ is EXACTLY what this wall of text you sent me talks about
  120. bluethe idea that if america were just isolationist and never dip its hand in the friggin gooplake, all would be good
  121. dreamrealBJ is a man without a home, is the problem
  122. bluein what universe is that my problem
  123. dreamrealand he sees it, and worries, and can't see past the fact that he's without a home
  124. dreamrealit's not, until you make it your problem
  125. blueI'd say he's eaten what he's cooked
  126. dreamrealeveryone does!
  127. bluegood for him
  128. dreamrealso do I, so do you!
  129. blueyeah well I never claimed moral ambiguity, that I can tell you
  130. blueI never said, maybe we won't bomb iran because there's one good man there
  131. bluethat's the story, isn't it?
  132. dreamrealI don't know what you actually think about the situation
  133. dreamrealI'm anti-war on principle but not pacifistic to no end: if you have a bad dog, it doesn't matter if it's your neighbor's dog and hasn't attacked your kids, you do something about it
  134. blueit doesn't really matter as long as I have a position
  135. bluethat's the problem, the libertarians are actually worse than the wokelibs
  136. dreamrealwell, a lot of those people have positions too: it's "what costs me less in the short term" and I find that ineffective and said so
  137. bluenot having a position is the worst of all worlds
  138. blueit's this pure nihilism as escpoused by BJ and his folk that puts him on the block for me
  139. blueespoused*
  140. bluethat's why I left HWFO
  141. blue"ya I'll throw you both out of my house"
  142. dreamrealI get that: like I said, the whole discussion is "interesting" with some fascinating emergence. (Steigman started it!)
  143. bluewelp, it's great he doesn't HAVE a house to throw people out of now, how's that for a spinning for you, BJ
  144. dreamrealby "house" here I mean a place where he belongs, not an actual house, for the record
  145. dreamrealI'm just as unhomed but I know where I should belong, I think
  146. blueyes I know, and the point still holds, perhaps all the more so
  147. bluehe doesn't have a house to throw me out of, because he has no values
  148. dreamrealOh, sure he does: and he might, because of the fact that you're committed to your values! (Or he might not: Steigman is committed, too.)
  149. bluehe 'values' boil down to "I don't wanna deal with actual contending matters of life"
  150. bluehis*
  151. dreamrealI disagree: his scope is just far narrower than it should be
  152. bluehe's a total copout; and that makes him worse than cheezer the wokelib, who might have values, even if they're deranged
  153. bluewhat's his scope? "my kids"?
  154. dreamrealokay, chill, for one thing
  155. bluethat's a terrible scope
  156. dreamrealfor another, cheeser's values are actually a lot less concrete than BJ's are
  157. blueI'm perfectly chill
  158. dreamrealthen remember that these people are still my friends
  159. bluedo you expect me to cut your friends slack because they are your friends? you know this is not how we roll, that's why timon's timon
  160. dreamrealI think you should show some freaking respect, sure
  161. dreamrealI don't care if you still disregard them: the disdain is actually philosophically really interesting, because of why
  162. bluerespect is earned, and none of those I talked about he earned any respect, in my interactions with them
  163. bluehas earned*
  164. dreamrealSure, but I'm asking you to respect ME. If you choose not to, that's fine... but there it is, innit
  165. blueI'm *NOT* gonna transitivise YOUR respect for them, if that's your expectation
  166. dreamrealDid I say that? I did not. Disregard them. Feel what you feel. Think what you think.
  167. dreamrealI mean, in a lot of ways, you're mapping to the pardes: BJ is acher, cheeser would be... ben zoma?
  168. bluemhm
  169. dreamrealit's kinda sad: four went in, one came out... and in the real world, it'd be more like 99,999 went in, and one came out. Lots of achers, ben zomas, ben azzais. I know which one I think *I* map to.
  170. blueshammai
  171. blueyou're WAY too nice for this world
  172. bluealmost to a fault
  173. dreamrealME? Huh. Shammai was the mean one! Hillel was the nice one.
  174. bluecertain to a fault
  175. bluedid I say shammai? I meant hillel, obviously
  176. dreamrealI was wondering!
  177. bluewell, you certainly fit the "speak less and do more"...
  178. dreamrealI think it's more along the lines of "I forgive much, because that's a good impulse and it helps the world turn more easily for everyone," maybe with a distant hope that others will go "hey, that seems to keep him fairly regulated, maybe I should try that sometime"
  179. blueya well, I almost never forgive at all, particularly when I'm offended, which happens never
  180. bluemostly because you can't offend me, only mine
  181. dreamrealWell, when I'm ACTUALLY offended I can hold on to anger like a dog with its last bone. But I haven't gotten truly angry in years. Irritated, sure - that post on discord is a FINE example of me taking off the gloves.
  182. blueit does NOT read as a HFWO convo though, I was sure that bounded off that xeet
  183. dreamrealChronos: if you want to see what I'm talking about, BTW, I can send to you in email if you like
  184. bluebounced*
  185. dreamrealoh, it definitely was, but there were lots of confused people in the conversation, all desperate to avoid justification for iran
  186. dreamrealthe core thing was "I don't like it" salted liberally with "It's not REALLY my problem" and "I don't know how it'll end, so it shouldn't have started" with an occasional spice of "the jews did it"
  187. dreamrealSawa got mad at me for saying "we" when referring to the joint operation. "Who's WE? You israeli?"
  188. dreamreal(not a quote, but even so.)
  189. bluethere's a certain wing of the maga movement that is just as terrible as the wokeleft. they hate jews, and their 'concerns' seems to be wholly contained within the lines of american soil
  190. blueonto which wing I most wholeheartedly include BJ and his rotten ilk
  191. bluesteigman is just a useful idiot
  192. blueprobably a kapo in another universe
  193. bluelike, 99.99%
  194. dreamrealthat low?
  195. dreamrealI keep dropping authentic judaism in that thread like I'm introducing it to goyim at shul - "So, Jonathan, here's what Judaism is about" because I can't resist poking at him.
  196. bluedid you ask him if his KKK application went through already?
  197. dreamrealno, he'd never join the KKK, too white
  198. dreamrealall those WHITE sheets? How racist can you be?
  199. bluehe's a democrat, they started the KKK :P
  200. dreamrealYou do know *I* almost joined the KKK, though, right?
  201. bluemaybe you soul-switched with steigman for a while
  202. dreamrealUnlikely :D
  203. blueheck, steigman is so bad he almost makes *me* an antisemite
  204. dreamrealEh, he's just a purely performative Jew, using his Jewish roots as a way to flagellate himself
  205. blueyes, that's the point, thank you for literally repeating it
  206. dreamrealI like repeating points, and being thanked for repeating them even with more effective framing is a dopamine SHOT
  207. blueyou do realise you're making my points much less subtle, right
  208. dreamrealSure, I'm reframing them for myself
  209. blueya
  210. dreamrealI think I'm gonna capture that whole exchange for posterity
  211. dreamrealIt's AMAZING, dude
  212. dreamrealit reads like sophistry but it's pilpul
  213. blueon HWFO?
  214. dreamrealyeah
  215. blueI often calls the AI 'm8', and it loves it for some reason
  216. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New issue #177: Fix robots.txt scheme behind reverse proxy - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/issues/177
  217. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New issue #176: Edit Display Name results in: Error (404) An unexpected error occurred. - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/issues/176
  218. dreamrealoh, now that the backend is online I can enable the webhooks!
  219. ChronosWho is BJ?
  220. Chronosdreamreal: Sure, please send an email, I'm curious
  221. dreamrealHe's the guy who runs a slack
  222. dreamrealSorry for formatting
  223. dreamrealSome of the players: Steigman is an idiot, a Jew who never saw a pro-Jewish position he wouldn't advocate against
  224. Chronos"We are witnessing history. Iran, to everyone's surprise, is destroying American bases so thoroughly, on such a large scale, and so decisively that the world is not ready for this." — Is this true? Iran is destroying American bases so thoroughly and effectively?
  225. Chronos(I've been largely staying under my rock purposefully.)
  226. dreamrealThey're destroying american bases so thoroughly that we've seen a rather drastic 0% decrease in effectiveness. Maybe even 0.0001%!
  227. dreamrealThe person who tweeted, BTW, had a russian flag in their bio
  228. dreamrealI think he's right: the world was not ready for Israel and America to BOTH be cruising over Iran as if there was no resistance whatsoever. We dismantled first-line russian and chinese defenses in ... I mean... 20 minutes?
  229. dreamrealI mean, mein Gott. We have B-52s flying over Tehran. B-52s! Their formal name is the "Buffalo" - but the informal name is "easy target." You don't fly those over an enemy unless you've left air *supremacy* behind in the dust.
  230. dreamrealSorry, BUFF - Big Ugly Fat Fellow. :D
  231. dreamrealSo, to answer you directly: it's VERY untrue in the sense that the author meant it. It's surprising, yes, in that we expected it to be a LOT harder. Instead it's involved effort that LOOKS LIKE a white-hot knife through particularly warm butter. It's not that way - both Israel and America are being careful and determined - but the effect is the same.
  232. Chronosdreamreal: You think reports of U.S. bases being thoroughly destroyed is mostly propaganda?
  233. dreamrealAnd no, Iran has scored a few hits - there are dead on our side - but those hits have been performative.
  234. dreamrealUh... with all due respect, I can guarandamtee it
  235. dreamrealMy day job is in signals analysis
  236. dreamrealit's really really hard to hide something like that
  237. dreamrealand that's not something that requires "insider knowledge" which I do not have anyway
  238. blueChronos: persians are known liars
  239. dreamrealIRGC, not persians: I know a few iranians
  240. bluesame thing atm
  241. Chronosdreamreal: Signals analysis! Interesting.
  242. dreamrealNot really
  243. Chronosblue: Hmmm.
  244. * blue calls out on dreamreal for pilpul
  245. dreamrealNo, the IRGC is a 130k large cadre in control in Iran: they act AS IRAN. I know at least four iranians who hate the IRGC with white-hot passion... as muslims.
  246. bluewelp, time to rise up, it's now or never
  247. blueah wait, not happening...
  248. dreamrealAgreed, although they're HERE, not THERE
  249. blueguess they're fine with the IRGC
  250. blueoh, you mean EXPATS
  251. bluewell
  252. bluethat doesn't count
  253. dreamrealOh, bullshit
  254. Chronosdreamreal: Do you think Iran can successfully bankrupt the U.S.? For example, send in a lot of cheap drones, that require expensive countermeasures.
  255. dreamrealThat's like saying "you can't say 'we Jews' unless you're in Israel, you coward, you fled" - that's not how anything works. They left and fled BECAUSE they matter.
  256. dreamrealChronos: no.
  257. bluedreamreal: yes; though the point is 'we Israelis'. when I talk about Israelis, I mean Israelis IN ISRAEL, not expats
  258. dreamrealblue: I get it, but your characterization was broad and I take exception to it.
  259. bluebroad characterisations UNDERPIN reality
  260. dreamrealChronos: there's a lot of fearmongering. It's ridiculous. Iran is *flailing*. Flailing is effective in part because it's unpredictable... which means the results are naturally self-limiting as well. In terms of pounds-to-pressure, Iran is worse than a paper tiger at this point.
  261. bluecurrently, as long as iranians aren't toppling this terrorist regime, they're SUPPORTING it. that's how it is. I'm not calling them cowards or evil per se, but they ARE supporting it
  262. bluethat's just factual
  263. dreamrealAnd they've also ALREADY severed their command structure, which means their CEILING is a set of messy warlords all fighting amongst themselves, with a *titular* head somewhere... and we keep hitting the head *and* the warlords
  264. dreamrealblue: I hear you. They need to be enabled and act on it.
  265. bluethis applies everywhere, btw. gazans... are the BEST example.
  266. blueare they all terrorists? no. do most of them support/are fine with hamas? YES. 10000000% YES.
  267. dreamrealYeah, the gazans are... going to be difficult to uncorrupt. It's not about getting them on "our side," as much as it is "We really want them to value seeing their kids grow up."
  268. blueplease note that even in PUBLIC polls, even after over TWO years of war, there is still an ABSOLUTE majority supporting them, and a SIZABLE majority thinking 7/10 was GREAT
  269. dreamrealAware. Wrote about it.
  270. blueyou CANNOT undo this insanity, you gotta write it off as done&done, next generation, go the desert you old lot
  271. Chronosdreamreal: I really hope you're right!
  272. dreamrealOr demand that they show the next generation by example...
  273. Chronosblue: Is it feasible for the Iranian people to overthrow the Iranian government? Doesn't the Iranian government have a monopoly on weapons there?
  274. dreamrealChronos: well, I don't know the future, but so far, the US/Israel effort has been generational in success rate - that doesn't mean something CANNOT go wrong, but their capabilities have NOT improved (so to speak: more like their capabilities were headshotted out of the gate and have gotten far far far worse every day) and their capability to recover sans air supremacy is... well.. let's just say I'm
  275. dreamrealnot a betting man, but I'd bet heavily against it.
  276. dreamrealI'd be willing to bet the mortgage against it, actually.
  277. bluewe are told that kin liability, or guilt by association, is WRONG. but is it really wrong? isn't it your job as a PEOPLE to root out those of you who are dragging you into the abyss? and if not, is it not YOUR fault as well for having FAILED to do that?
  278. bluewhat's the ACTUAL argument against guilt by association?
  279. dreamrealChronos: they went from 100% capacity to about 3% on day one - in the first few hours. And it's gone down from there. China and Russia could both weigh in, I suppose... but that'd be a LOT of escalation from them *and* we've just shown what our actual platforms can do. In broad daylight. In other news, did you know night falls once a day?
  280. dreamrealAnd we went into Tehran *against* Russian and chinese defenses. It's a meme already: "If you have a chinese anti-stealth radar, you can immediately tell a stealth plane is in the arena because it blows up."
  281. blueChronos: everything is feasible. Your real epithet is 'is it worth it'. Iran has over 90 million people. as dreamreal noted, the SUPERBADDIES are well under a million. in terms of action economy, this is totally doable, likely though at grave costs to the unarmed population
  282. blueit's time for them to take their fate into their own hands, regardless how brutal the regime is
  283. dreamrealAlso worth noting: for better or for worse, apparently we ARE trying to get some involved locals to act, including material support
  284. dreamrealbut yes
  285. Chronosblue: I feel like "help the people rise up" regime change wars have been tried before, and almost all (or perhaps entirely all) fail.
  286. ChronosIn the Middle East, at least.
  287. blueChronos: that *is* true, therefore trump demanding unconditional surrender is not a bad move. fixed Germany, fixed Japan
  288. dreamrealChronos: you're echoing some of the discussion from that thread :D
  289. dreamrealbut yes, there are paths, and they're gonna hurt the people who surrender
  290. dreamrealsucks to be them, they're the ones who made the choices
  291. blueChronos: but consider this. this is currently the *worst* of all worlds re Iran. There can be no possible *worse* alternative. we're at the stage where even a civil war is better than what they have, which is a terrorist regime both inwards and outwards
  292. dreamreal"We're going to pick a fight with someone who we're sure won't have the will to fight back." Not a bad bet, given the past 50 years.
  293. blueif you understand we're in the worst of all worlds re Iran, you see how clear this war was necessary, & welcome
  294. dreamrealAnd yes, an Iran where they have to pick up the wreckage and rebuild an evil institution is still having to rebuild from parts rather than finishing a job
  295. blueand just to be clear; there ARE worse worlds than a civil war world, we have been shown that MANY a time in the past
  296. bluean American world that accepted and perpetuated slavery would have been much worse than the civil war world
  297. dreamrealDid you see where the IRGC said "if you oppose us we will shoot your children?"
  298. blueif DJT saw this and said, "this IS the worst of all worlds, we have an adversay who 1) says he wants to kill us and 2) is actively working towards that 3) kills anyone in his own ranks who doesn't want that, then you see how clearly this war flows from it
  299. dreamrealWell, to be fair, they said it yesterday or so, not before. So it's them trying desperately to hold on to control, not an additional assault.
  300. bluethe beauty of a 'rock-bottom' world is that it paints a clear path forward, because you don't have to worry about hitting anything lower
  301. bluetake Russia, for example. Why not attack them, are they not just as evil? Well, there is a worse world there; for example, one where they use nuclear weapons
  302. dreamrealall the more reason to not let Iran get nuclear weapons. And oddly enough, gutting Iran makes Russian attacks on Ukraine MUCH harder to prosecute, thanks to fuel and drones.
  303. blueso whilst the "Russia is decimating the Ukraine" is a TERRIBLE world, it's not the WORST of all
  304. dreamrealIt's kinda funny, innit? The same people shrieking "help ukraine!!!!" say "noooo don't hit IRAN!" when hitting Iran actually helps ukraine more than almost anything else
  305. blueya well, maybe they need to go to game theory 101
  306. blueor to college
  307. blueor to high school
  308. blueor to kindergarten
  309. blueanything would do at this stage
  310. dreamrealNah, they're just looking at their bank accounts and who pushes a narrative they've accepted. And disputing that narrative might involve "thought" or "a conscience."
  311. blueI think the thing they don't get the most are iranian expats demonstrating FOR the war, with Israel/US flags
  312. blueit's really hard for them to process when ACTUAL people demonstrate for ACTUAL things that concern them PERSONALLY in the world, and aren't some larpers paid by NGOs
  313. dreamrealThey can't escape it much: every time they gather to mourn Iran, with their septum piercings and pride flags, "it's so sad that a government that would shoot us all and hang us by our entrails and hate everything we value is being attacked!!!!!," actual Iranians gather and shout them down :D "Chickens for KFC," indeed.
  314. bluehah
  315. dreamrealAnd it's like KFC is saying "We want to be everywhere, including where all them chickens are, yum. But those chickens are haram, we'll kill them without a second thought, but they're useful *for now"
  316. dreamrealI'm trying to avoid disdain, but ... dang
  317. blueI think they forgot that just a mere few years ago, Iran's president claimed at the UN that Iran has no gay people
  318. bluebut that's ok! it's all good because we can demonstrate for the poor gazans and feel good in our own bodies!
  319. bluewe saved the world!
  320. bluenow the gazans won't throw us from roofs anymore!
  321. dreamreal... except they would. You know, I wonder what Greta's pronouns are.
  322. bluesock/puppet
  323. dreamrealblue: ++ hahah that's pretty good
  324. nevetblue now has karma of 3.
  325. dreamrealBut you know, if she comes out as they/them or *gasp* turns out to be a lesbian or whatever, it'd be hilarious. We should DEFINITELY let the flotilla on through. :D
  326. blueshe'll need to flee gaza and ask for asylum in... israel
  327. blueoh the irony, oh man, that's a perfect world
  328. dreamreal(actually, no: I'm sure they rather politically astute on the other side would see her as politically useful and protect her from what the rank and file would endure, and everyone would go "but they let THAT muppet survive, are they all that bad?")
  329. blueuntil the cycle repeats itself, arab infighting begins, and she becomes a sex slave ISIS-style
  330. dreamrealI actually kinda hope she's asexual, though. Yikes. Can you imagine her as a sexual being? She'd be conducting oral sex with her teeth, snarling the whole time about how unfair everything is.
  331. blueI can't imagine her being sexually attractive to other humans
  332. dreamrealI haven't tried and don't want to.
  333. bluey'know, I think climate alarmism is stupid
  334. bluebut I'd at least have had some respect for her if she STAYED IN HER DAMN LANE
  335. dreamrealdiataxis
  336. nevetDiataxis is a way of thinking about and doing documentation. It's a quadrant of tutorials/explanation, how-to vs reference. What to write, how, and how to organize it. Should guide all documentation. Doesn't. URL: https://diataxis.fr/ Tag: documentation
  337. dreamrealarticle Diataxis
  338. nevetIdea session started: "Diataxis". Use 'content <text>' to add body paragraphs, 'done' to save, or 'cancel' to discard.
  339. dreamrealcontent Diataxis (https://diataxis.fr) is a way of thinking about and doing documentation. It establishes four needs, and four forms of documentation: tutorials, how-to guides, technical reference, and explanation.
  340. nevetContent block #1 added to "Diataxis". Use 'content <text>' to add more, or 'done' to save.
  341. dreamrealcontent It solves problems related to content (what to write), style (how to write it), and architecture.
  342. nevetContent block #2 added to "Diataxis". Use 'content <text>' to add more, or 'done' to save.
  343. dreamrealcontent It should guide most documentation efforts - and the sad thing is, it doesn't.
  344. nevetContent block #3 added to "Diataxis". Use 'content <text>' to add more, or 'done' to save.
  345. dreamrealdone
  346. nevetIdea saved as draft: "Diataxis" (3 content blocks).
  347. dreamreal++
  348. dreamrealnew feature, y'all! And with the site online, IT WORKS.
  349. dreamrealOoo it failed though
  350. bluehttps://bytecode.news/factoids/diataxis
  351. nevetNevet - Reference UI
  352. dreamrealthe article's there but attribution was wrong
  353. blueya really need to fix this ridiculous counter
  354. blueit goes up everytime I refresh
  355. dreamrealthat's because you're accessing it
  356. bluethat's a ridiculous metric, fix it
  357. dreamreal"why does the number of accesses go up every time I access it"
  358. blueoh man, who wrote this frontend
  359. dreamrealI know, it BLOWS
  360. dreamrealDo a gooder one, please
  361. dreamrealOkay, see the blog - I just published the diataxis thing :D
  362. * dreamreal has a frankenstein moment. IT'S WORKING! Not perfectly, at all, but it's STILL working!
  363. dreamrealThat diataxis article was written RIGHT HERE in front of you based on a discussion in #java
  364. * dreamreal is ridiculously proud of this
  365. dreamrealdiataxis.stats
  366. nevetdiataxis has been accessed 12 times, last accessed at 2026-03-07T15:56:18.992662Z.
  367. dreamrealdiataxis.stats
  368. nevetdiataxis has been accessed 12 times, last accessed at 2026-03-07T15:56:18.992662Z.
  369. dreamreal:D
  370. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New issue #181: Support GitHub webhooks as alternative to polling - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/issues/181
  371. bot[jottinger/bytecode.news] New issue #180: Track post view counts (internal only) - https://github.com/jottinger/bytecode.news/issues/180
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