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Sunday, March 29, 2026
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- bluephaleth: hi
- phalethhi blue
- blueI just discovered something totally crazy & fundamentally broken about reality
- blueso if you have a gmail account
- bluelike say, phaleth.is.awesome@gmail.com
- bluedid you know you'd get mails sent to phalethisawesome@gmail.com, too?
- bluegmail ignores dots
- blueand this completely breaks reality, because nobody else ignores dots
- blueso you could create two paypal accounts, one with and one without dots, using the same email
- blueand in fact, apparently scammers now use this to establish trust
- blueso they sign you up with your gmail, just with a variation of your email with/without dots
- blueyou get a legit email from the provider
- blueand then they send you a second email from their faked provider, saying there's a problem with the account
- phaleththis reality is great for scammers
- blueEXACTLY
- bluethis is CRAZY
- blueof all the stupid and dumb things google ever did, this gotta top it
- bluedreamreal: ^
- phalethactually honest peopel are being turned into scammers and scammers breed scammers faster than ever in the history of humanity
- blueyup
- bluehonestly only this is reason to not ever use gmail
- bluethis is totally wrong black voodoo magic!
- dreamrealYes, I HATE this
- dreamreal+ is ignored, as it should be, . is not, and I HATE it
- dreamrealutter madness
- phalethI'm using disroot.org for my mailboxes, they gave me this nice @getgoogleoff.me alias that I use almost everywhere except when comunicating with authorities
- bluewhy would EVER ignore dots in an email, this goes against EVERYTHING that is correct
- blueit's like an open invitation for scammers
- phalethwell, some systems fail to parse e-mail addresses correctly when there are for example two dots in before the @ of the e-mail address
- * phaleth looking at OOTB wordpress
- phalethalso you should not use real names on the interwebz anyway even if that makes people laugh at you and also on gmail all the names are already taken
- bluelol
- phalethalso gmail requires a phone number
- phalethno reason to bother with gmail
- phalethbtw, I'm trying to figure out how to setup e-mail server on podman
- dreamrealDunno. I've been getting aid messages for some poor lady in the midwest for YEARS thanks to that period consumption
- * dreamreal hands phaleth mailpit... and runs
- phalethI'm gonna keep using mailcow, it started enforcing 2FA in latest release, but whatever
- phalethactually it added ability to let admin enforce 2FA
- dreamrealI figured out nevet's slow irc response time last night :(
- dreamrealwas an id10t error :(
- dreamrealwasn't in the code at all, nevet was turning around in 6-7ms, my irc client was throttling output
- phalethmy current IRC lag is almost 3 seconds
- nevetok, phaleth: updated my current irc lag.
- dreamreallag in what context?
- phalethit managed to respond within those 3 seconds
- phalethIRC client <-> server lag
- dreamrealnevet's internal response time is around 7ms per message, spawned out from threads. Pretty much ALL the lag is from the server and client; the bug I was chasing was LITERALLY my client
- dreamreali'd send 30 factoid updates in a single paste (I set up groups of factoids to set, then paste them in a block) and it was taking a minute to respond to them all
- dreamreal... because weechat's antiflood protection was sending one message every two seconds
- dreamrealit's not quite exactly two seconds because irc itself is slow but that's where the problem was: literally my client
- dreamrealwas chasing that for three days :D
- phalethdreamreal: https://images4.imagebam.com/a7/9e/c0/ME1BOL06_o.png
- phalethis it something up with weechat I could also fix?
- phalethI think it's just the whatever libera server being hosted in japan or wherever
- dreamrealirc.server.libera.anti_flood <-- that's the setting if your connection is called libera
- dreamrealI wasn't seeing a problem with lag so much as it was justtaking time to *receive* the messages and I blamed my code for it
- phalethok, thank you
- dreamrealbytecode.news will have an article about it monday, it's written but publishing on the weekend is kinda dumb
- phalethhuh, long default
- phalethweechat ╡ Option changed: irc.server.libera.anti_flood = 10 (default if null: 2000)
- dreamrealSeems to fit the "30 messages in one minute" assertion, huh
- dreamrealI set mine to 250
- phalethyeah, bots should not spam
- dreamrealI'm not a bot, I should be able to spam!
- phalethblue: for child containers we still need to be able to capture command line output as stream https://upaste.de/raw/iXa do you know if js runtime can do that?
- phalethwhen all these "tty":true or whatever params are set to false then there is no output at all from the REST API
- phalethah, there is also /libpod/containers/{name}/attach, lets give that a try
- phalethattach to container only works at runtime, not at buildtime
- phalethI mean it is essentially runtime, but for that podman build command there is no stream output
- bluephaleth: I'm not 100% sure
- bluewill need to look up if js runtime can do it
- phalethhttps://github.com/nodejs/node/blob/main/doc/api/tty.md
- phalethnot sure you will be able to get the file descriptor
- blueya
- phalethI think it's number 3 for stdout
- phalethactually STDIN (fd/0), STDOUT (fd/1) and STDERR (fd/2)
- blueya
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- phalethrootless podman inside rootless podman does not really work even with the official podman image
- bluelol
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