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Tuesday, April 7, 2026

  1. blueperigrin: heh, why is he skipping 3?
  2. chovyblue: yeah but newer models work better than indians lol
  3. chovycorporate america is all indians. i've never seen a clean codebase in 30 years
  4. blueheh
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  19. chovyonly good code i've seen has been opensource
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  26. bluechovy: really? I've seen lots of opensource code and a lot of it is gargabe. react is terrible
  27. blueopensource doesn't guarantee quality
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  34. onosendiblue: ah cool, I do the same thing with zod (validate/type config).
  35. blueonosendi: cool
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  39. dreamreal*sigh* I hate devops
  40. phalethgitea 1.26 should fix e-mails not being sent https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/37112
  41. nevetENABLE_NOTIFY_MAIL is ignored · Issue #37112 · go-gitea/gitea
  42. phalethdreamreal: devops is good
  43. phalethdidn't know it's possible to do logical OR in package.json https://github.com/vitejs/vite/pull/22155/files
  44. nevetfeat: allow esbuild 0.28 as peer deps by sapphi-red · Pull Request #22155 · vitejs/vite
  45. dreamrealphaleth: I didn't say it wasn't, I just said *I* hate it
  46. phalethnext thing I'll prolly get to know is that package.json can open a can like a can opener
  47. dreamrealmigrating nevet to a docker-only deployment, working out host access to services, etc., and fixing bugs along the way
  48. bluephaleth: yo
  49. phalethdocker-only? sounds kinda off
  50. phalethblue: hi
  51. dreamrealwhy so?
  52. blueit's ok, dude is in 2026 and never heard of podman
  53. bluedid you see the new release?
  54. dreamrealpffft
  55. dreamrealwho gives a crap what the oci container is
  56. dreamrealthe point is that I'm trying to get it oci-only
  57. bluehi, fred flintstone
  58. dreamrealy'all get caught up in the silliest things
  59. phalethdocker still suffers from NAT-ing, so a lot of the old-fashioned devops people don't like to deploy using docker fully, but only to be able to scale the app layer
  60. bluehttps://github.com/primate-run/primate/issues/225
  61. nevetProposal: openapi / `primate/client` · Issue #225 · primate-run/primate
  62. blueclanker wasted my mind on this, so now I'm doing it CLANKERFREE
  63. blueturns out to be much more simple
  64. phalethblue: primate release? yes
  65. blueyes
  66. phalethdreamreal: try looking into podman quads instead of docker compose, I know it's more devops *work*, but it's worth it
  67. bluephaleth: we got a lot of praise from a prominent IT publication: https://bytecode.news/posts/2026/04/primate-0-37-migrations-typed-env-and-a-cleaner-module-api
  68. phalethsorry, quadlets
  69. bluedude broke his website but otherwise it's a good source
  70. dreamrealit's not broken
  71. dreamrealit's just running the pre-ported code, the new code doesn't change the surface but infrastructure
  72. phalethblogpost looks nice
  73. phalethah, no, I've opened devtools network tab on that site
  74. dreamrealit's nextjs, yes
  75. blueyes, he's using next which is terrible, but it's his problem, not mine
  76. * phaleth has a bad habit
  77. phalethnow I need to count many sheeps before falling asleep
  78. dreamrealphaleth: what kind of response time are you seeing? Here it renders pretty much live
  79. phalethnextjs is not the only thing, but it's alright, I can keep counting for long
  80. dreamrealI don't care about nexjs vs anything else, I'm just not a UI coder
  81. phalethI'm on tor proxy, so I see seconds
  82. phalethbut as long as there is no cloudflare the interwebz is functional
  83. dreamrealand figured it was more important to have something out there as opposed to spending the next few months I don't have building a UI that wouldn't work well for any other human on the planet
  84. phalethyeah, well, if it's a static site, markdown should suffice
  85. phalethwhat motivates to cut down all the bytes being sent over the wire is something like https://images4.imagebam.com/7a/83/25/ME1BX0UP_o.png
  86. dreamrealstatic site?
  87. dreamrealI mean, I guess that's a valid assertion, but it's not a static site
  88. blueit's very slow
  89. dreamrealyeah, it sucks, I get it
  90. blueit doesn't suck that much, it's just not something I would use
  91. blueit's the most clankered framework and by extension, the worst
  92. bluedreamreal: though tbh, what you *probably* need in your case is something like htmx. neither next nor primate are good solutions because you already have a backend
  93. dreamrealWell, the problem with htmx is still the SEO aspect, because you HAVE to have content for the bots