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Wednesday, May 13, 2026

  1. * jreicher joined #primate
  2. * jreicher joined #primate
  3. dreamrealblue: https://wasp.sh/blog/2026/05/13/new-language-for-web-dev-was-a-mistake
  4. * phaleth joined #primate
  5. phalethbun drops some baggage https://bun.com/blog/bun-v1.3.14#smaller-binary-size
  6. nevetBun v1.3.14 | Bun Blog
  7. * phaleth joined #primate
  8. bluedreamreal: so this guy sinked $5 mil for doing nothing?
  9. bluegreat job
  10. blue"macOS binary size hasn't changed much." hahahahaha
  11. blue→ which bun
  12. blue/home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.13/bin/bun
  13. blue ls /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.13/bin/bun -l
  14. blue-rwxr-xr-x 1 blue blue 101814712 May 2 14:38 /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.13/bin/bun
  15. blue→ mise upgrade
  16. blue→ ls /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.14/bin/bun -l
  17. blue-rwxr-xr-x 1 blue blue 92752752 May 13 20:05 /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.14/bin/bun
  18. bluestill friggin ridiculous
  19. phalethrust is prolly gonna add those 8 MBs back and more on top
  20. dreamrealI wouldn't say it was nothing
  21. bluedreamreal: every other day a moron comes around and tries to replace javascript with something 'better'
  22. bluewe really need to stop reinventing the wheel all the time
  23. blueif I had a good solution to reactivity and slotting I'd probably ditch svelte
  24. bluethat's what phaleth is essentially doing with primate website
  25. bluethe baggage is real and it's super heavy
  26. dreamrealblue: it's not just JS
  27. dreamreal"I know, I'll build something better so nobody has to think no more! It'll be goodlier than whatever else we've ever done even though it's very much the same strategy, just different fringes!"
  28. blue`Before, one would just choose between Spring Boot, Django, or Rails and have everything handled and managed. Now, I had to first pick each library, then make React, Redux, Webpack, Express, Passport, and Sequelize work together.`
  29. bluedreamreal: someone needs to tell this guy about primate
  30. blueseriously
  31. bluebecause this is a solved problem, and primate shows that
  32. dreamrealblue: Gee, I wonder why I pointed out the URL... in #primate
  33. dreamrealWe may never know.
  34. blueI'm tempted to write this guy and ask him why he didn't do his market research properly.. ok, primate didn't exist in 2021
  35. dreamrealThat'd be the wrong way to look at it, though
  36. dreamrealYou'd be better off saying "What if you did it like this, I'm doing it like so and here's why"
  37. bluephaleth: we're commenting on the link dreamreal posted prior to your joining
  38. blue18:54 < dreamreal> blue: https://wasp.sh/blog/2026/05/13/new-language-for-web-dev-was-a-mistake
  39. phalethfunctional programmers
  40. phalethin some circles these people are called scammers
  41. phaleththat looks like a total ripoff
  42. bot<discord:blue> If I find this guy's email I'll write him
  43. bot<discord:blue> Maybe he's eager to invest in something that actually works and isn't snake oil
  44. bluedreamreal: I sent the dude an email, thanks for the drop
  45. * jreicher joined #primate