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Wednesday, May 13, 2026
- dreamrealblue: https://wasp.sh/blog/2026/05/13/new-language-for-web-dev-was-a-mistake
- phalethbun drops some baggage https://bun.com/blog/bun-v1.3.14#smaller-binary-size
- nevetBun v1.3.14 | Bun Blog
- bluedreamreal: so this guy sinked $5 mil for doing nothing?
- bluegreat job
- blue"macOS binary size hasn't changed much." hahahahaha
- blue→ which bun
- blue/home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.13/bin/bun
- blue ls /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.13/bin/bun -l
- blue-rwxr-xr-x 1 blue blue 101814712 May 2 14:38 /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.13/bin/bun
- blue→ mise upgrade
- blue→ ls /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.14/bin/bun -l
- blue-rwxr-xr-x 1 blue blue 92752752 May 13 20:05 /home/blue/.local/share/mise/installs/bun/1.3.14/bin/bun
- bluestill friggin ridiculous
- phalethrust is prolly gonna add those 8 MBs back and more on top
- dreamrealI wouldn't say it was nothing
- bluedreamreal: every other day a moron comes around and tries to replace javascript with something 'better'
- bluewe really need to stop reinventing the wheel all the time
- blueif I had a good solution to reactivity and slotting I'd probably ditch svelte
- bluethat's what phaleth is essentially doing with primate website
- bluethe baggage is real and it's super heavy
- dreamrealblue: it's not just JS
- dreamreal"I know, I'll build something better so nobody has to think no more! It'll be goodlier than whatever else we've ever done even though it's very much the same strategy, just different fringes!"
- blue`Before, one would just choose between Spring Boot, Django, or Rails and have everything handled and managed. Now, I had to first pick each library, then make React, Redux, Webpack, Express, Passport, and Sequelize work together.`
- bluedreamreal: someone needs to tell this guy about primate
- blueseriously
- bluebecause this is a solved problem, and primate shows that
- dreamrealblue: Gee, I wonder why I pointed out the URL... in #primate
- dreamrealWe may never know.
- blueI'm tempted to write this guy and ask him why he didn't do his market research properly.. ok, primate didn't exist in 2021
- dreamrealThat'd be the wrong way to look at it, though
- dreamrealYou'd be better off saying "What if you did it like this, I'm doing it like so and here's why"
- bluephaleth: we're commenting on the link dreamreal posted prior to your joining
- blue18:54 < dreamreal> blue: https://wasp.sh/blog/2026/05/13/new-language-for-web-dev-was-a-mistake
- phalethfunctional programmers
- phalethin some circles these people are called scammers
- phaleththat looks like a total ripoff
- bot<discord:blue> If I find this guy's email I'll write him
- bot<discord:blue> Maybe he's eager to invest in something that actually works and isn't snake oil
- bluedreamreal: I sent the dude an email, thanks for the drop