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  1. dreamrealyo blue
  2. dreamrealsorry wrong channel
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  13. dreamrealhrmmm. That's... not right.
  14. blueand the active feeds for this channel?
  15. dreamrealfeed subscriptions
  16. blueanyway dreamreal, could be nice to have admins per provenance, if you get to it
  17. dreamrealfeed subscriptions for irc://libera/%23primate
  18. dreamrealOkay, found a latent bug, need to fix THAT NAOW
  19. dreamrealso both features are PRESENT - try the !feed list thing, I'd msg the bot to get it, let's see what it shows you.
  20. dreamrealI'm going to add a UI element to get the feed list (the API already has it, I just never wired "show the list" into the UIs.)
  21. dreamrealAs far as admin by provenance: still quite a struggle :/
  22. dreamrealadmins affect the *bot* config, the provenance admin stuff... I mean... it'd be another level under admin, doable but not simple
  23. bluethen maybe a new role
  24. dreamrealblue: yeah, but new roles ripple through the permission system, it's doable but not simple
  25. dreamrealbecause THESE roles would apply to provenances, so you'd have admin here but not in #java or whatever
  26. dreamreal"does user X have permission Y for provenance Z" - not illogical at all, but not part of the system either
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  28. nevetPrimate Blog - https://primate.run/blog.rss bun.com - https://bun.com/rss.xml Deno - https://deno.com/feed Node.js Blog - https://nodejs.org/en/feed/blog.xml
  29. dreamrealThere you go!
  30. dreamrealhey blue
  31. dreamrealif you think it's worth it - and ONLY in that case - can you submit that new BCN article to HN
  32. dreamrealhttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50022246 please upvote if you think it's worth it
  33. nevetListening Too Fast | Hacker News
  34. bluedreamreal: upvoted
  35. bluekinabalu: thanks for helping
  36. blueI wasn't hope, would have done it otherwise..
  37. bluehome*
  38. bluedreamreal: the article raises an interesting point, and I think I can incorporate some of it into primate's AGENTS.md, especially red testing
  39. bluebut I do wonder how to skirt around the model cheating. I mean, nothing prevents it from writing a red test that goes `assert.fail()`
  40. blueof course, that example is stupid: there is no input that will pass the test. but any other trivial example would do
  41. bluemy conclusion, and perhaps your should be: the most important part of working with the agent should be, it produces red tests, and *you* review them
  42. blueyours*
  43. bluebut all of this doesn't save us from the fact tests need to express a behavioural contract, and agents often treat them as a prima facie gate
  44. blueiow, passing the test doesn't guarantee correctness, it doesn't even guarantee freedom from regression, it just guarantees that the whatever the tests test, is considered passing
  45. bluedreamreal: btw I just came across this https://www.wecodefire.com/p/kotlin-keeps-up-with-rust
  46. blueinteresting stuff
  47. dreamrealyeah, that's andrew again
  48. dreamrealfascinating results: the JVM beats rust and kotlin native, and as usual the balance is memory
  49. bluewho is andrew?
  50. dreamrealJVM = more memory, better performance
  51. dreamrealkinabalu
  52. blueoh
  53. dreamreala phalange made of pure flatus, but even so
  54. blueI'm missing zig from the dhh comparison, btw
  55. dreamrealnobody cares about zig, though
  56. * dreamreal runs
  57. bluebut I get the feeling this is because people are now taking zig's andrew less seriously after his lashing out at bun
  58. blueI gotta say: I was kinda turned off down completely by that behaviour. totally unprofessional
  59. blueturned off*
  60. dreamrealyeah, it was not a great look
  61. dreamrealif you're handing out upvotes: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50023409
  62. nevetKotlin keeps up with Rust in DHH's Campfire rewrite | Hacker News
  63. bluelike dude, the LAST thing you get to complain about, is some dude deciding to move from your language to rust
  64. blueif you care enough, change your ai policy or accept their patches, and if not, shut up
  65. dreamrealyeah, it's a natural consequence of choices, live with it
  66. blueupvoted, that is some great work
  67. bluedreamreal: in between that, a rant about corporations and evil bun etc. etc. I'm like, come on
  68. blueand some kind of boasting about, we don't need bun's financial support anymore
  69. dreamreal"They haven't tried to buy me hard enough, is the REAL problem"
  70. blueI mean, have some self-awareness here... they gave you money, that's kind and humbling
  71. dreamrealI would love to have fuck-you money to the point where I didn't have to care about my clientele, but... I don't
  72. blueregardless of whether they benefit from it or not
  73. dreamrealyeah
  74. bluewhich apparently they didn't btw; they need to keep a lot of in-house patches to keep it running
  75. blueneeded*
  76. bluethis doesn't take from zig being great software: but again, they're failing at the human side; this guy might be a great engineer, but he's terrible as a leader
  77. dreamrealit happens
  78. blueanyway, I kinda hopped off zig in the last ~6 months and on to the Go train
  79. bluethere are many recent indications Go is a great language for very complex stuff: esbuild, the ts rewrite...
  80. blueit's probably still impossible to write a js engine in go, simply due to the fact there's no manual memory management, but anything that doesn't need that, it's great for
  81. dreamrealI'm still riding rust because of the native bindings and the ecosystem approach
  82. dreamrealbut my requirements are a little... much
  83. blueya
  84. * kinabalu peers
  85. bluedreamreal: I *really* need that agentbox feature in repopack. I'm running around 5 opencode sessions at once, and it's very hard on this poor computer
  86. dreamrealheh
  87. bluethey're also not sandboxed and what not, and then it keeps messing around in /tmp/opencode, until it runs out inodes for that, and it starts creating stuff in ~, it's all over the place
  88. bluethe thing is, this will have to be a paid feature, because it costs real resources
  89. blueeither that, or a `bring-your-own-box` kinda thing
  90. blueso rent a vps somewhere, put `rp` on it, run `rp agent` (which supports --headless), and then you're free to go
  91. dreamrealblue: worth noting: kinabalu is a LOT better at bizdev than, uh, the guy in my chair
  92. bluebizdev?
  93. blueyou mean devops, or?
  94. dreamrealbusiness development.
  95. blueoh
  96. bluewell, when I get to the point I'm confident enough to need investors, I know who to turn to
  97. dreamrealNo, that's too late
  98. dreamrealyou need to turn NOW so you're developing something that deserves confidence
  99. bluedreamreal, if *I'm* not yet satisfied with it, how will others be?
  100. dreamrealI'm not saying that's not where you are but the process needs to be started EARLY
  101. dreamrealIT is composed of two main things: the idea and the implementation
  102. bluemhm
  103. dreamrealbizdev is about the idea, the implementation is almost secondary
  104. bluethat's fair
  105. dreamrealFOR EXAMPLE: nevet. The implementation is almost ALL of it, because the project lead is a coder and not a business guy
  106. dreamrealand thus it's really good at the implementation but who'd want to buy it? Why or why not?
  107. blueya, I'm not a business guy either
  108. dreamrealand FWIW andrew was pointing that out from early days and he is not wrong about it
  109. bluemhm
  110. bluedreamreal: I will contact him after I'm done with a few things, including this chat feature
  111. dreamreal*nod*
  112. bluedreamreal: I gave you a reader role for the repopack project
  113. bluehttps://repopack.com/project/repopack/tasks/555
  114. bluethis is kinda brilliantly reported by AI, I believe. really good job there
  115. blueI had to stop the flog agent: it started implementing around it; I told it to stop and report the gap upstream
  116. bluethis is something that is really hard to teach a pleasing machine. it doesn't ask me almost ever if I want to stop and report the gap upstream, it just goes around it
  117. blueI had another thing just now, I told the agent to analyse #555, fork off follow-ups as stacked tasks, and define the contract, and it went ahead and parsed that as "do it yourself". I had to stop it
  118. bluegonna be better with chat and the 'controller' agent, but we're a few leagues away from there atm
  119. dreamrealsure
  120. blueseeing the road, seeing the distance, and not being there yet, is hard, lemma tell you
  121. * dreamreal is familar
  122. bluedreamreal: ironically, the ineffectiveness of my work right now *prevents* me from burning onto pro 100 in less than a day (~1.5d). once chat is done, I expected this to go down to roughly 0.5d, or be mostly bounded by the speed of the agents themselves
  123. bluebut I'm well aware that once chat is done, I will probably need pro 200, which does not make me happy
  124. bluepro 200 is x4 pro 100: so if I get down to 0.5d, that's still 2.5d in a 7d timeline. even with the limit busters, which usually come once a week that's still 5d / 7
  125. blue2d*
  126. blueso we'll have to see
  127. bluedreamreal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAaG0jalyjg
  128. nevetYouTube: Texas Lightning - No No Never | TexasLightningVEVO
  129. skillbot04,01► 14,01YouTube :: Texas Lightning - No No Never
  130. bluewee bit of entertainment
  131. blueshe has such a nice, calming voice
  132. bluestacks are so nice
  133. blue`rp job run 7 --source 2ce06f2cf64b24aaae5d6a39d2411fbc2e18f5db --build-arg FLOG_VERSION=0.1.0-job-test --attach`
  134. bluedreamreal: rp is *super* nice
  135. bluebut I'm a sucker for clis, for there's that
  136. blueflog 0.1.0 is building