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Saturday, October 31, 2026 (America/New_York)
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- phalethclanker dropped a ton of sh script, for some reason it still keeps some test sh scripts https://repopack.com/project/repopack/tasks/782
- phalethactually some of that is bash
- phalethalso clanker should have developed rps against golang 1.27, not golang 1.24 which is obsolete
- blueyes, also hi
- phalethhi blue
- bluehi
- bluerepopack.com is down, I'm doing some maintenance, should be back up soon
- blueshould be back
- bluemost of the scripts are gone
- blue[blue@vmd170320 ~]$ ./rps
- bluerps: usage: rps <bootstrap|status|sync|deploy|rollbac
- blueyou can build rps and copy it; but you'd need a ~/.ssh/repopack_deploy_ed25519 to deploy
- bluedreamreal: clankers are overengineers of the worst possible kind
- blueI feel like phaleth's input is valuable. we might be soon needing programming languages that work well for clankers
- bluephaleth: https://repopack.com/project/repopack/tasks/786
- phalethdidn't know task can be renamed
- phalethcool, renamed a closed task
- blueyes
- bluephaleth: everything is so much faster and nice with go rps now
- bluethat mvp thing was a terrible calnker hallucination
- phalethyeah, I bet
- blueI think clanker should be 100% forbidden from writing a single code of bash
- bluemaybe only go
- phalethanyway, it seems like rps depends on a set of CLI tools
- bluewhat do you mean with CLI tools?
- phalethyeah, I guess maybe you could put that into AGENTS.md or whatever it's called
- blueya
- phalethit looks like the rps code is calling into a lot of what the shell scripts used to do
- phalethlike tar and whatnot, instead of using golang standard lib
- phalethone thing it does correct is that it uses the podman REST API
- phalethit's too POSIX dependent it seems
- bluePOSIX is the way to go no
- blue?
- phalethnot when standard lib already has a solution
- phaleththe best approach is of course always stay within the process
- bluedeclankered https://repopack.com/project/repopack/tasks/792
- phalethof course there are OS kernel calls, but those should also be minimized by teh runtime
- blueya
- phalethand anyway, writing to disk on a server if not really necessary is the dumbest thing a programmer can allow to happen
- phalethif there is a streaming API then it's a no brainer
- bluewe need a git streaming API :P
- phalethyeah, clanker has some really tough task on repopack
- bluehm?
- phalethwell, there is a lib for storing git data into postgres
- phalethforgot what it was called
- blueya
- phalethhopefully that one uses UUIDv7s everywhere by default
- bluethat's another can of worms we'll have to handle, that uuidv7 migation
- bluebut at least we don't have those terribly bash scripts anymore, what a nightmare
- phalethyeah, should do it sooner rather than late
- phalethreplacing 50k lines of shell script with 4k lines of golang is not bad
- blueyup
- phalethblue: sshd container is created but not started
- phalethcreated 32 Minutes ago
- bluethanks phaleth, looking into it
- phalethno problem
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- bluephaleth: sshd is fixed
- phalethok, cool
- dreamrealblue: true but because humans are overengineers too
- blueya
- bluedreamreal: could you look at what I asked on #primate please?
- bluephaleth: I wanna start working on the container registry. we need a short domain. any suggestions?
- bluerpcr.io ?
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- phalethcan start with cr.repopack.com and buy another domain later
- blueok. I don't mind buying the domain. I believe the shortness is that image names are short
- phalethyeah, but you are not going to build a docker hub like website just yet right?
- bluewell, we're going to do a proper container registry, no? like gcr.io
- bluerpcr.io/PROJECT/IMAGE
- phalethI mean once you have somthing up and running and something depends on it why not
- phalethbut till then
- phalethwho knows how all these oci-image registries work anyway
- bluewell, if we're doing one, we should do it seriously. PROJECT should be scoped privately if the project is private, and so on
- blueyou suggested having a CR so that we don't need to depend on local caching of images
- phalethyeah, but can the registry be distributed to multiple VPSes?
- bluedistributed in what sense? it will be constructed such that it's publicly available. VPSes running user code will need to get a token that allows them to pull from the registry, scoped to the given project
- bluepublic projects could offer public images
- phalethsay there are two VPSes in different geo zones, rpcr.io points to both, now a user in zone A uploads new image or image version, how will the registry in zone B obtain that image?
- phalethif repopack controls that process then it's just db record being copied and also a tar.gz file being copied and imported to podman on target VPS
- phalethanyway, for now rebuilding images is fine, it's not being done too often and it's rather quick considering that the only optimization that happened is flog
- blueyes, it's my intention that it's part of repopack's database
- phalethI'd highly recommend to focus on all those already existing tasks first
- phalethmaybe even squeeze primate a bit more for some optimizations
- bluedo you have concrete suggestions?
- phalethcode splitting, ditching svelte, dropping the bloat off of auth pages, torturing clanker into doing more with modern css than with js
- phalethI mean the app js bundle dropped from 1.81 MB to 1.13 MB with primate 0.43, but the site is far from feature complete and it will get back there eventually
- blueok, can you create a task with all those things? I can work them off one by one
- phalethsure, I can try
- bluethanks
- phalethanyway, do you think existing tasks are not worth it?
- phalethhttps://repopack.com/project/repopack/tasks/679
- bluethere are many existing tasks
- blueI'm working on many fronts at once
- phalethyeah, heh, I know
- phalethit's insane
- blueyup
- phalethhttps://repopack.com/project/repopack/tasks/794
- blueyes?
- bluedreamreal was 100% against this
- bluethat's why it's generally in the icebox now until someone raises his voice in support
- phalethnot sure what you mean
- phalethagainst code splitting?
- phalethprimate website is code splitted and it's working fine
- blueI mean 794
- blueoh wait
- blueI was looking at 784
- bluesorry
- blueyeah, I'm not sure we have such granular control over splitting. splitting occurs via groups, but we can try
- phalethyeah, I think just routes is good enough
- bluek
- phalethno clue what's 784 about, feel free to close I guess, up to you
- blueya, will probably close
- phalethI think the less features and fly out menus and UI crap are there the better
- phalethfor example the notification thing is very annoying
- phalethand it does not work well anyway and testing of that is pain in the butt
- bluewhat notification thing?
- blueyou mean desktop notification or bells?
- phaleththe bell thing in top left area
- bluehow else can I know that I need to do something somewhere?
- blueif it's not working well we can fix it
- phalethyou open it when you want to know
- phalethalso it notifies about bullshit, for example did it notify you about this? https://repopack.com/project/flog/apps/flog
- phalethI don't think so
- blueit didn't, show it? anyway you can opt out of notifs to my knowledge
- blueshould it*
- phalethoh, so let me turn that off then
- bluebut if something needs to be improved, please create a task instead of completely turning it off
- bluelike if you think something needs to be informed or not informed
- phaleththere are already so many tasks and it's not even the most important stuff :)
- phalethyou can't even look through all those tasks yourself, need a clanker to do that
- blueit's slowly improving, it's just a big scope, we've already got so much done, don't worry
- phalethyeah, the codebase is huge already
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- blueit's actually not installed I believe, but was in my HOME
- phalethI guess there was a trust me bro installer doing that
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- phalethand that trust me bro installer should have uninstall option
- phalethwell, if it's not from pacman than it does not matter
- blueit's not
- phalethso much RAM free after all those cleanups this week
- phalethabsolute waste, repopack app can grow ten times bigger
- blueya well, now just need to get rid of granafa and all the java dumpster fire
- phalethjava is gone
- phalethgrafana is not going anywhere, it'll only be moving
- blueI don't even know what grafana does and why it needs so much memory
- phalethwe only have one instance of prometheus so far, will prolly have a couple more
- phalethgrafana is a beast system, good thing it's written in golang
- phalethit's also amazing once you understand it at least a bit
- * phaleth still needs to expand those two HAProxy backend dashboards
- bluewhat is prometheus?
- phalethtime series data provider
- phalethalso written in golang
- bluewhy do we need all this complexity
- phaleththey work very well and actually not difficult to learn
- phalethlook into vaultwarden for grafana URLs and take a look at the dashboards yourself
- phalethall we are after is total automation and dashboards and then more automation to be able to quickly recover crap we run
- blueya
- phalethonly via well crafted dashboards we will be able to achieve the goal
- blueyeah let's just not fall in love with numbers like americans do
- bluenumbers are meaningful, but they're not everything
- blueI'll look into grafana
- phalethgrafana and prometheus do very well on one important metric and that is their RAM usage
- phalethcurrently there is not so much data in prometheus right now, cause I still didn't fully figure out backups, but grafana has no problem displaying one month of data from prometheus
- bluek
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